A little proficient? Is that about the same as being a little bit dead?

My Spanish is baaaaad, and I make common sense errors in it when I shouldn't, considering I'm fluent in Italian.

Italian and Spanish are so close, it's scary.

For example, one to ten in Italian -

Uno
Due
Tre
Quattro
Cinque
Sei
Sette
Otto
Nove
Dieci

I plan to learn Spanish, and become somewhat proficient in it. And I'd like to do it with German perhaps as well.

Italian has a much better flow and sound to it, I think, but I'm biased. I really like speaking in it, but there aren't many Italian speakers in KC. There are some in STL, as I've got family there that does, and I've conversed with some Italian speakers on The Hill.

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Not quite the same ... being a little bit dead is like being a little bit pregnant ... you either are are are not. Proficiency however has a range of measures that can apply. But I get your point anyway! LOL

323 is oh so much better than my hyperbolic 310. Dude has no business in the HoF. McGwire is 15x the player, steroids or no.

"" Who the **** are they to decide if a player is a HOFer "

- They are accomplished sportswriters. Who are you?
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" Who the **** are they to decide if a player is a HOFer by way of anything other than the stats they put up?"

That was the quote I made, not the chopped up version you used to fit your agenda.

"Personally" "I" "cheat" "like" "McGwire".

See, I can chop up your sentences to make you look like an idiot too. Cool.

uh... OK... how bout-

" Who the **** are they to decide if a player is a HOFer by way of anything other than the stats they put up?"

- They are accomplished sportswriters. Who are you?

See that does nothing to add or subtract from the context of your statement. The question is, who are YOU to decide anything, you're just a casual fan that has shown a very limited knowledge of the game.

...now run along.

correct.

I'm going to have to side with the dude from California, sorry. He knows more than you because you are just a casual fan.

See, I can play this game too :)

Pujols is still having a terrible year.

"See, I can play this game too :)"

Except that what you said made no sense in the context of their conversation.

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"See, I can play this game too :)"

- Apparently not.

You see RF, I was comparing the petulent poster to professional sports writers, not myself. So no, you can't play.

Did these professional sports writers ever play baseball? As I've been told repeatedly, you aren't allowed an opinion unless you actually played at at least a college level.

"As I've been told repeatedly, you aren't allowed an opinion unless you actually played at at least a college level."

I think you are introducing a straw-man.

No, but close. The point there was what makes these baseball writers experts? Their journalism degrees? Pfft.

Huh? I liked the other argument better.

Albert Pujols' career OPS has already fallen from 1.037 to 1.025 since joining the Angels.

Following the 2009 season, his career OPS peaked at 1.055. It has decreased by 30 points since. And his OPS from the age of 30 forward is a mere .911.

His on-base percentage during this time, .375, is .052 points lower than his career mark in 2009 (.427), and his slugging percentage during this time, .536, is .092 points lower than his career mark in 2009 (.628). In total, that's a .144 difference in OPS.

Bwahahahahahaha!

Pujols after 42 games -

2011: .259/.332/.407/.739 with 7 HR, 24 RBI
2012: .212/.256/.318/.574 with 3 HR, 18 RBI

"They are accomplished sportswriters"

LOL oooh sportswriters, very prestigious people. You're right, they are all knowing and all powerful, while we are mere peasants who require their wisdom and guidance.

You may have quoted my full statement but you are still struggling to comprehend it. "by way of anything other than the stats they put up" Now you have a point about writers being qualified to vote according to what they see on the field, something I already agreed with. HOWEVER, you're whole "they're sportswriters and I worship them" speel is not a solid qualification for them to be the final judge on moral turpitude and THAT'S what I was alluding to. What I said (which clearly went over your head) was that they are fine judges of players' PLAYING careers, but who are they to decide what's right and wrong and what's moral or not? Especially when we're talking about something like steroids, which were not against MLB's rules, but apparently against your hero sportswriter's "rules".

"Who are you?"

I am LetsGoZito.

"HOWEVER, you're whole 'they're sportswriters and I worship them'"...

- I never said this or anything close to it. If you are going to fabricate things and present them as my personal quote, we are through discussing this. I loath a liar.

"What I said (which clearly went over your head) was that they are fine judges of players' PLAYING careers, but who are they to decide what's right and wrong and what's moral or not?"

- Well, let's see... "they" are the professional observers with the most access to these players. Morality is part of the criteria for voters. Did you know this?

"Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played." http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rules-election/bbwaa

"Especially when we're talking about something like steroids, which were not against MLB's rules, but apparently against your hero sportswriter's "rules"."

PEDs violate the rules of admission into the Hall as well as the civil law. The sportswriters did not write the rules.

"I am LetsGoZito."

You are a liar and ignorant of MLB.

I am just trying to help you to understand.

Where I work there are a lot of Mexicans and I've learned tons of Spanish words but can't seem to have a conversation or string sentences together. But when they speak Spanish I always know partly what they're are saying.