Sometimes a negotiation is only about maximizing dollars for the player and minimizing dollars for the team. I'll even go so far as to admit that is the typical negotiation. But there are some negotiations which involve other things of value to either the player or the team. If we take Roy at his word, and there's no reason not to since he's been honest in the past, then the choice for him is whether to play or retire and the Cardinals choice is to pay or not.
If the Cardinals treat this as a dollar negotiation and counter on price, I suspect Roy will just retire. Of course, he could always come out of retirement should the usual injuries to starters suddenly make his salary demand appear more reasonable.
Jeremy Guthrie traded for Jason Hammel & Matt Lindstrom
He's a free agent in 2013. He had one more year of arbitration available this season, but the Rockies avoided that with a one-year contract offer.
There was a great article in the Hardball times Annual this year analyzing trades along with players teams let go to the FA market, and how much value the acquiring team gets out of the player
Teams know more than anyone else about the players they are letting go, Health, scouting, ect...
It was pretty in-depth so I won't go into it here, but to make a long story short, be wary of any player a team lets go via FA or trade. Even though it is applicable to position players and relievers somewhat, the largest correlation is with Starting pitching.
I realize both teams moved SP in this deal but because it makes no sense from the Rockies end I'm thinking they know something which concerns them about Hammel.
We signed Justin Ruggiano, formerly of the Rays, to a minor league deal.
Also, evidently the Cubs claimed Adrian Cardenas, which means the Astros passed on him. Bummer.
For what it's worth, Luhnow claims that he hasn't been instructed to cut or limit payroll this season.
He needs to hold on to the money for next year. Barring a bunch of mid-season extensions, the market is going to be flooded with quality starting pitching.
Everybody and their Momma is a free agent next year.
Joe BlantonMatt CainKevin CorreiaZack GreinkeJeremy GuthrieCole HamelsColby LewisFrancisco LirianoKyle LohseDerek LoweShaun MarcumDaisuke MatsuzakaBrandon McCarthyCarl PavanoAnibal SanchezJonathan SanchezJoe Saunders
And the guys with options that may or may not be picked up
Scott Baker *Fausto Carmona *Kevin CorreiaJorge De La Rosa *R.A. Dickey *Scott Feldman *Gavin Floyd *Dan Haren *Tim Hudson *Brett Myers *Jake Peavy *Ervin Santana *James Shields *Jake Westbrook *Randy Wolf *Carlos Zambrano *
"He needs to hold on to the money for next year. Barring a bunch of mid-season extensions, the market is going to be flooded with quality starting pitching."
You're not thinking we should go sign some guy to a nine-figure deal, right? o_O
No nine figure deal but the market (barring extensions) will be a buyers market next year.
We will need some SP. Myers will most likely be gone and Happ will most likely prove he isn't worth his price tag. There is also the possibility Wandy gets moved.
We don't need to spend 9 digits on a stud but there are plenty of serviceable names on that list for potential cheap 2 year deals.
We can't just have a AAA product for the majority of the time.============
I agree, The roster has to have some veterans for a foundation. You can't have just coaches.