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    • Waino run support
  • 4/25/12
  • Batman66
I didn't say anything like that.
If you look in the Wainwright thread I stick up for him.
Most guys recovering from TJ don't get back to where they were until their second year back.
I think he'll be fine and even if he has indeed lost something like velocity or bite on his breaking stuff , he's a smart enough pitcher to overcome that.
And I hope he does, it's fun watching that guy pitch.
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  • 4/25/12
  • MarxMarvelous
Yeah I just read that thread. Sorry if it came off like I was attacking you.
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  • 4/25/12
  • Batman66
No problem I understand and no apology needed.
He's one of my favorite pitchers in the game and despite being a Cubs fan I love to watch the guy pitch.
He'll be fine, just gotta give it some time.
He'll be a guy like Maddux , when he does lose some velocity he'll make up for it with his smarts.
Not many pitchers set up hitters better than Wainwright does.
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  • 4/25/12
  • Wizard_of_Koz

Run support will be an issue for your ace many times
for they Will be matched up against the oponents ace.
Jeff pitched a great game as he has so far this season

just one of those months for waino.
it always happens to somebody

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  • 4/25/12
  • Wizard_of_Koz
Jeff looks like a big suprise this season
from setup guy to shut down pitcher.
was that the plan all along?
or did z leaving open that door?
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  • 4/25/12
  • carp_4_cy
You would think so, except that Loshe is our ace this year and is our #1 starter, matched up against the Josh Johnson types. AW is currently 3rd in the rotation, though maybe due to the schedule he is matching up against other #2s. Why is it that we have more trouble against other teams #2's (Grienke, Jeff S&(*&(*&) than aces like Johnson and Gallardo?
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  • 4/25/12
  • Card_Martian
I call it the Bud Norris factor.
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  • 4/25/12
  • Batman66

He's still inconsistent but he could end up being a solid #3 or even #2 type starter.
His first start of the season was better than his performance last night and he threw a 98 mph fastabll past Zimmerman in the 9th inning after already throwing over 100 pitches. He had a shutout going and ended up giving up a homer in the 9th.

They planned all along to give him a shot at starting this year , he trained in Arizona months before spring training even began and he was one of about 5-6 guys competing for the other 2 rotation spots.

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  • 4/25/12
  • Wizard_of_Koz
I saw the nats game..he pitched very well .
his location was money
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  • 4/25/12
  • Batman66

His location has been great, but some of the time he's getting too much of the plate though.
He's had 2 great starts, pitched about half a good game against your team before he fell apart and one start where he just was getting too much of the plate and was getting hit hard.

His biggest problem in the past was falling behind hitters, he's been excellent at not doing that this year.
He had a great approach this winter he said he's going to approach starting in a different way than he did relief and he said he knows he has to maximize his pitches, get ahead in counts and not try to strike everybody out and not be afraid to let batters hit the ball so he can keep his pitch counts down and stay in games longer ........I was surprised to hear that from a Cubs pitcher especially after watching Zambrano approach 100 pitches in the 5th inning for years.
He's also getting confidence and a bit of cocky ness which I think is key for him

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