"The Major League Baseball rulebook doesn't contain an official definition for a checked swing; it is the decision of the umpire presiding. Generally, factors such as whether the bat passes the front of the plate or the batter pulls his wrists back are considered in the ruling. Some umpires prefer to use the "breaking of the wrists" as the method to decide a checked swing."
Since it's not in the rulebook, it's entirely up to the discretion of the umpire as to whether or not it's a checked swing.
So it's not necessarily whether the bat crosses the plate. Some umpires use that in their discretionary decision and others use whether or not a batter broke his wrists.
Exactly, read the post I submitted before yours. When you roll through the plate to keep from swinging it gets called. You are correct in saying it is a judgement call, but if you bring your bat past the plate in an effort not to swing, you are gonna lose 9/10 times.
there is also no rule that says a tie goes to the runner, or that the hand is part of the bat, or that a runner has to turn right at first. These are all guidelines. And running your bat a foot past home is a strike to an ump, and it should be.
He swung, and he said after the game he didn't. I think what pissed him off was he blew it, and he was probably frustrated.
Sometimes guys get that call, but most time they don't, and if he would have gotten help, he would have been run. His whole body went forward like a foot past the plate.
The homeplate umpire should really never make that call on their own, they have an awful angle to see it, no reason to not ask for help.
Its not a swing. Ive never even seen anyone think that a swing was the bat crossing the plate, that is false. Its idiotic. Then everyone would just stand as far back in the box as they could and they would have a ton of leeway.
He was NOT in the front of the box, he was toward the back at least a foot and a half to two feet behind the zone.
Look where he started, and where he finished. His whole body moved from a foot behind the plate for the middle, and his hands bat were two feet behind the plate, and wound up a foot past.
The white line is his chin. I love Eric, but you cant move your whole body and bat through the zone and not expect to get called for swinging.
He did take his bat off his shoulder, what are you saying. He brought his bat and body all the way through the zone. He swung. Why would you say "If I didn't take my bat off the shoulder"????
It is a judgement call, and if you bring your arms, bat and body 2-3 feet forward and through the zone, you are gonna get called for a swing. My goodness, how much clearer can it be?
He brought hos whole upper body at least 3 feet through the zone. He swung, and at the very least it was not a reason to throw a fit.
I don't care what the announcers said, they didn't take the time to break down the film. Trust me that ump is not feeling bad about that call. If that was the other way around, and that was Kimbrel/Beltran, you would be screaming bloody murder that he swung and brought the bat/his hands/and his body through the zone.
I have no idea how that cant be a swing.
His wrists didn't break on the "swing." Clearly looked like a check swing to me.
I think what made it worse was that the home ump was so quick and didn't check to the 3rd base ump.
If you want to get technical, the front of the plate has nothing do with it either.
But when judging whether or not a player swings the wrist breaking is a big factor, and he didn't do that.