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    • Beane Scores - Reddick
  • 7/10/12
  • dnrapp
Only signed for this year, but under team control for the next 4 years.
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  • 7/10/12
  • glusv

Beane could sign him -he has total control through 2014 and control through 2017. If Reddick continues as he has this season and next he could be hard to sign, since then he will be eligible for arb and Beane would really need to offer $$$$$ to avoid just that happening.

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  • 7/10/12
  • esyiam

i know, i'd rather not be reminded of the last A's position player in the ASG. haha.

Beane is to blame for that and whoever else he had working with him, and it's a heck of a drought for the A's, but i just don't think it's all on Beane like many believe it to be. at the same time, Beane COULD'VE had position players in the ASG if he had hung onto, you know who (i'd rather no mention their names since it evokes a bit of anger from all us, A's fans. haha).

either way, as long as Beane can manage to build a core of players from this season's roster and build the farm up, i don't see why guys like Reddick, Cespedes, 2011 Weeks, Milone, and Parker wouldn't be selected to the ASG. and as we always talk about the current farm, there's a lot of good looking players that can hopefully make a splash in the Bigs when they finally get called up (i.e. Choice, maybe Green, and who knows what the newly drafted rookies will look like).

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  • 7/10/12
  • glusv

I don't think it's all on Beane but it has to change, pitching is great but for a long time we have needed position players, it's been since Giambi and Chavez left we have had problems with 1st and 3rd, and Giambi was a long time ago.

Yeah, I don't like to think of Cargo either.

The quote was from a larger article, here is the link, it's interesting because at the end Dave Henderson currently announcing for Seattle has comments on why it is hard to get selected to the All-star game playing in Oakland and it has to do with attendance: http://www.mercurynews.com/athletics/ci_21039842/oakland-have-sorry-all-star-history-over-past


Edited 7/10/12   by  glusv
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  • 7/11/12
  • esyiam

definitely agree with the article. it doesn't help that although the team is doing better, the A's aren't talked about at all. up until just recently (about a month or so ago) did other friends and co-workers know who Reddick was. when the A's first went to ATT for the Bay Bridge series, my friends and coworkers had no idea who Reddick was. they only knew who Cespedes was.

they didn't even know who Milone was and Parker was known by about half of them, but i think that's mostly because he was the Dbacks top prospect. at the same time, as solid of a pitcher as McCarthy is, most people don't really know who he is. he's not really an All-Star, but he works well, IMO. i think if McCarthy was doing what he was doing on a team that's contending, he would possibly make the ASG. same with any of the guys like Parker, Milone, Reddick, and Cespedes.

it definitely helps position players when they have a ton of support and ballot stuffing that teams like the Stankees, Rangers, Giants, Phillies, and even the Pirates are getting. most of the All-Stars are all from winning/currently contending teams except for guys like Butler (but he's a hometown guy, so that's expected).

take the 2011 Nats, for example. they were .500, i believe. i don't think any of their position players went to the ASG last season (correct me if i'm wrong) and they have some good players like Zimmerman, and a few pretty good young guys (forget their names). they're contending this season and Harper has a ton of hype around him so that helps his cause for getting sent to the ASG along with Desmond. if they weren't contending this season, it probably would've only been Gio going to the ASG by himself, again.

anyway, hopefully the A's fanbase can pick it back up, but obviously that begins with the A's playing like contenders again. that'll get them back in the limelight again.

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  • 7/11/12
  • esyiam

BTW, since we're on the ASG and all-stars, no one has talked about Cook yet.

anyway, he pitched a scoreless inning, 0 hits, and 2 SO. i can't exactly recall who he was pitching to, but i want to say it was against Ruiz. he had a sinker, i believe, that was well off the outside part of the plate and very much outside of the strikezone and Ruiz waved at it. awesome pitch and really had him guessing at the plate. great showing by Cook! way to represent the A's!

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  • 7/11/12
  • macksman
Help me out with the club's control through 2014 and control through 2017. What kind of contract do we have with Reddick?
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  • 7/11/12
  • glusv

MLB players when first called up are under club control for 6 years, the first 3 they essentially have no rights when bargaining with the club usually signing one year contracts and accepting whatever salary the club proposes, in efffect the players are powerless. The final 3 years they are still under club control but gain some power through arbitration. If the club and player cannot agree on salary for the upcoming year in this case Reddicks 4th season, the player can elect arb but still cannot leave into free agency. After 6 years MLB service the player is free to sell his services to the highest bidder (free agency). In Reddick's case if he continues to perform on such a high level and wants more $$$$$$$$ than Beane offers for his 4th season then he can elect binding arbitration, each side submitting a figure to the arbitrator they feel is fair. To avoid this Beane will try and sign Reddick to a contract assuring his services at a set price for usually 3 years, to avoid arbitration. But what if Reddick refuses because this season and the next are really dynamite years for him, the danger to Beane (any small market team) is if the player wins in arb and follows with another great season, again electing arbitration, looking like he will win again, then Beane will not be able to afford him and probably will trade him. If he does win Beane still has the power to trade him, really forced upon him by the player. Miguel Cabrerra did exactly that with Florida, electing arb, winning, had a great season, elected arb again and the Marlins traded him to Detroit because they could not afford him.

Reddick is currently on a one year contract @$485,000.00, after this year he will have 2 + years MLB service. Check out http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=98,
a good site for all MLB team roster contracts. So Beane has one more year total control, then 3 still control but not as much since Reddick can elect arbitration.


Edited 7/11/12   by  glusv
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  • 7/12/12
  • macksman
Thank you.
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