You cannot have Hanigan lead off, he is just to slow. I could see moving him up from 8th but their is no way you can put someone that slow at the top of the order. The best leadoff hitter we have on the team is BP and if Votto was in the lineup BP should bat lead off but with Votto out we just have to make do with either Cozart or Stubbs at lead off unfortunately. Hanny would be the last person other than the pitcher you would want leading off,lol.

I am still of the belief to bat Votto 4th. It gives the reds three chances to put a runner in front of your best RISP. If that fails he is your best OBP player to lead off the second.

BTW, why is Rolen so important to this lineup? The reds really struggle without him in the lineup. I'm guessing the reds are like 50 games above .500 with Rolen starting since his arrival.

He is one of the few guys who actually goes up there with an AB plan, not just SESH.

I agree but he is only one player but his presence seems to ignite this lineup.