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    • Anybody else concerned about Joe Nathan 18.00 ERA?
  • 4/12/12
  • theofani

Get a clue Dor. Do you always have this problem with reading comprehension? It's not just about two blown saves. It's about him being 37 years old, having Tommy John surgery, having a below average year last season and having an atrocious Spring Training.

Now, do you get it? The gu's 37 years old and coming off major arm surgery.

Hello McFly. Anybody home?

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  • 4/12/12
  • knowname
Glad you brought up the Frankie thing... that was so obviously WAY too soon. Than again he just wasn't the same since the chair incadent. Ppl don't seem to realize, being a closer is not as easy as a middle innings guy. ppl in the 6th inning don't generaly give 120% to get on base. The 9th inning is the last inning every time.
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  • 4/12/12
  • Dor12
I will get a clue when you learn a little about baseball.
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  • 4/12/12
  • nobigwhoop
Dor, how come you can't (or just won't) answer my question about Frankie's stats before they punted on him?
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  • 4/12/12
  • nobigwhoop

That's my point, Knowname. My comments are not solely about two bad outings out of four. It's the TJ surgery, his age, his poor spring, etc. One could argue here, similar to what you wrote about Frankie, that Nathan is just not the same since his surgery.

But, the pro-Nathan crowd wants to simply disregard everything else and say, "Hey, he blew two saves, big deal." Well, if it were just that, and nothing more, I'd agree. Unfortunately, it's a combination of several things (see above), not just two bad outings. To see it otherwise is to put on rose colored glasses and not see the elephant sitting on the table.

Now, could things change? Sure. But, the question is, how long do you wait? I am not ready to give up yet, but I can tell you that my string is getting short.

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  • 4/12/12
  • Dor12
I did go back and read I said it was 2 blown games.
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  • 4/12/12
  • Dor12

But the simple fact is all his advanced stats show he is the same as before the surgery.
Will he get it all together no one knows for sure but 2 games is hardly enough to can him over.

Go back and read Washington's comments when he switched Feliz for Codero and it was all about the way Frankie was carrying himself...here
'"If a closer blows a save and he's out there being the closer, I'll give him the ball five or six times in a row," Washington said. "Yesterday, Frankie just didn't look like Frankie. We've got to protect us, and we've got to protect Frankie. Frankie will be the closer of the Texas Rangers - we're just giving Frankie a chance to get himself together."

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  • 4/12/12
  • nobigwhoop
Well, Dor, how about we agree to disagree? I just don't see his "advance stats" (whatever that is, but assuming it's this years stats) being "the same as before the surgery," but okay. Time will tell.
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  • 4/12/12
  • dumpjon
Theo and Whoop have to be excommunicated Angels posters. Those two are exactly like the ones on the Halo board talking doom and gloom after 5 games.
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  • 4/12/12
  • repsort
That or they are the same poster.
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  • 4/12/12
  • dumpjon
One or two, he/they still must be castoffs from the Angels board.
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  • 5/28/12
  • limey2550
Bump.
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