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  • 3/28/12
While I agree we need much more info to form an informed opinion on this, the lesson has nothing at all with the need to " don't carry a weapon ". The possession or non possession of a weapon is totally irrelevent. What we'll learn perhaps in the future, is what other judgments that nite should these involved participants in this tragedy have done differently in hindsight. A weapon in of itself is neither a source of good, nor of harm. It is how one utilizes the weapon that is the critical factor.So this lesson of " don't carry a weapon " is no lesson at all from all this.

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  • 3/28/12

In kennesaw, Georgia the law requires all heads of households in the community to keep at least one firearm in their house. If not they are subject to fines and penalties. Needless to say, their murder rate and crime rate in this community is very low.

We have what appears to be more and more vigilante groups( ie Black Panthers ) calling for citizens to pick up other citizens, or kill them on sight, ( Zimmerman ) that have not been charged with any crimes. We have celebrities like race baiter Spike Lee giving out wrong addresses of purported criminals ( elderly couple forced to flee for the lives out of their home because of this nitwit shrimpboat Lee's crazed mistaken address ), etc. Things like this will no doubt see good citizens increasingly arming themselves. No law enforcement officials has arrested anyone in the Black Panthers for calling for the death ( " you whitey's take one of ours, we take one of yours" ) of Zimmerman. Zimmerman may or may not have committed any crimes, but calling publically for the death of another citizen and awarding a bounty for the capture or the murder of another citizen, is most certainly a crime. But law enforcement sees no need to make an arrest of anyone in the Black Panthers. As such, Smith and Wesson sales.... already selling at a brisk pace.... will no doubt increase. We live in dangerous times, and it appears that with the national appearance of the national attention grabbing race baiters ( Sharpton )to Sanford, Fl. the nations race relations has been set back a notch. Its a shame, as it appeared for awhile that the nation was making solid progress in our race relations.


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  • 3/28/12

The facts of this story are very much in dispute. One person has told me that Zimmerman did not confront Martin at all, but was attacked by him from behind. On the other hand, Martin's girl friend has said that Zimmerman did approach and accost him.

The thing that is beyond question is that Zimmerman walked after him after the police dispatcher told him not to. Not a wise move.

I am also aware that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and many others are jumping onto this case, which is not good. There is no point in stirring up trouble further.

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  • 3/28/12
I agree with you on both accounts, doctorfate, ie Zimmerman was apparently told to stand down, but did not.... and that "Reverend Sharpton" ( and others ) are not helpful by stoking the fires.
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  • 3/28/12

The unresolved question is if he confronted and provoked Martin, or if he was attacked by him from behind. The answer to this question would go a long way toward determining if Zimmerman was involved in justifiable homicide, manslaughter, or second degree murder.

I am glad I do not have to pass judgement in this issue. The facts are murky, and the testimony of Zimmerman is corrupted by self interest. Hopefully there are witnesses who can shed light.

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  • 3/28/12
I think we are still far away from the determination that Zimmerman created a crime. We are far removed from getting the essential facts here too, imo. That said, there are lots of questions that Zimmerman will have to answer too to show that he used a gun in justifiable self defense here. Thev only conclusion that I 'm prepared to draw right now however is that the initial investigation was neither thorough, nor transparent. The family does deserve a thorough and competent investigation of the loss of their child to a shooting. The Sanford Police Dept did not appear to me to have done so, from my initial observations here.

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  • 3/28/12
You're an easy mark. I like getting you riled, LOL!
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  • 3/29/12

Yes, I agree with all of that. The sad thing is that most people seem to have already drawn their conclusions, based on the murky bits of data available. Zimmerman is a pariah, and can't show his face in public.

It points up the fact that he would have been better off being beaten up, even if he is innocent of anything except justified self defense.

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  • 3/29/12
As sad as this death is, this story is getting WAY more national media coverage than is warranted, imo. This is a case where one minority ( Hispanic ) killed another minority ( Black ). While I get the intrigue because it looks like the shooter temporarily got away... we have approx 300 murders a week of black on black murders, or black on white murders, and the national media basically doesn't seem to care a wit about these... nor do the race baiters, ie Black Panthers, " Reverend " Sharpton , " Reverend" Jackson, etc. Hardly a month does not go by when an innocent black child is not killed randomly when in a cross fire among competing gangs or what not. Just last week we had a couple of black thugs walk out of a Boston Coutroom that were accused of murdering some innocent blacks, but the Jury let these thugs walk. Where was the national media on this ? Did anybody see Al or Jesse or the national Black Panthers descend on Boston ? Where is the outrage and concern for these victims families ? Are these Black families in Boston any less traumatized by " the system " than was Trayvon Martin's family ? Did these Boston black families of the victims receive any better of an accounting by the local Government officials than what happened in Sanford,FL with the Government authorities in charge there ? If so, how so ?

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  • 3/29/12

Make me happy, do it.

Don't just threaten online like a weak typist.

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  • 3/29/12
Wow. Click? You must have meant snap.
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  • 3/29/12
Who knew Boods real name was "Mark"?
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