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    • The 2012 Good, Bad, and Ugly Thread
  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

The funny part is, Hurle went into his whole restaurant analogy, last offseason, to explain the Pirates buying out Cedeno.

"If I ask my wife how the food was at a restaurant we just ate at, and she says, 'It was OK', we don't go back. And that's what Cedeno was - OK".

Meaning, in Hurdle's eyes, Cedeno wasn't bad, but wasn't good, either.

Meanwhile, Barmes would have to improve dramatically, to get to OK. Barmes would be like going to a restaurant, and not only getting poisoned, but getting mugged in the parking lot, to boot.

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie

It's obvious that Huntington must go if this franchise is truly committed to improvement.

People can spin wheels all they want. It keeps coming back to the same thing. Huntington.

Give the guy money to spend; this is how he does it.

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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

HeII, Greeny, I've alawys felt that Huntington shouldn't have been hired in the first place. For where the Pirates were at, in September of 2007, Nutting and Coonelly needed to find the most wizened, experienced graybeard GM they could. The last thing the team needed was some rookie GM, that would have to go through OTJ training, on the fly.

And that's exactly what they hired. It was the height of folly.

You're damm skippy Huntington needs to go. And the sooner, the better. There are better men than Huntington out there, who would jump at a chance to GM the Pirates.

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  • 4/21/12
  • IHateThisTeam

"How much is this Barmes guy getting PAID, and who brought him here?"

Some doofus.

c

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  • 4/21/12
  • IHateThisTeam

"Barmes would be like going to a restaurant, and not only getting poisoned, but getting mugged in the parking lot, to boot."

Couldn't you just say going to a game at PNC? I always feel poisoned and mugged (or at least robbed).

c

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  • 4/21/12
  • IHateThisTeam

First we get rid of Doofus. Then we get rid of the guy who hired a doofus... not to mention a drunk.

Remember what Yoda said about The Sith: "Always two there are, no more, no less. A master and an apprentice."

c

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie
I'm not so sure they would. Even if one would, I would ask myself, "why?"
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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

Well, why is obvious. There are only 30 MLB GM jobs on the planet. Most of us, as Pirates fans, know who the Cards GM is, who the Rays GM is, who the Indians GM is, who the A's GM is, etc., etc.

Fame and name recognition is big, for a lot of people. In fact, wanting fame would almost be a requirement, to be an MLB GM, in the first place. Since you aren't going to be in a position to be hired, without an oversized ego.

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie

Wren turned us down.

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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

Wren was in line to take the Braves job. Wren worked under Schuerholz for 8 years, and knew that Schuerholz was heading to the President's chair, and Wren was taking the GM position.

Wren would have turned down the Yankees.

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie

I say we should hire someone with experience and results.

Michael Jordan.

That's right. M.J. Nike would make the coolest commercials about the Bucs, giving people something to talk about.

And

He'd make Huntington/Doofus actually look GOOD by comparison.

All problems solved.

Edited 4/21/12   by  GreenWeenie
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  • 4/21/12
  • lvbucfan12

Good - Burnett and RBI'dro. With a tip of the cap to Watson and Grilli.

Bad - Hanny's walks in the 9th

Ugly - Barmes and Barahahahahajas....still.

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  • 4/21/12
  • mch0stage

Good - Salma and A.J.

Bad - Hurdle's double steal decision with Cutch at the plate.

Ugly - Blass's overuse of the adjective "power". "power guy, power curve, power fastball, etc".

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  • 4/21/12
  • salarydump
Good--- A.J.
Bad--- Barmes and Barajas
Ugly-- the 1st 3 St. Louis Batters in the 1st inning.
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  • 4/21/12
  • keithconto

Good Burnett, with a shout to Pedro for driving in 2 runs

Bad. Barmes, no way I thought this guy would be this bad

Ugly. Tabata, totally forgot how to hit.

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  • 4/21/12
  • 4htr

Good....AJ , Pedro and Teke dressed like an undertaker.
Bad......Hurdle's steal decision with Tabata
Ugly.....Barmes and Tabata at the plate.

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  • 4/22/12
  • lvbucfan12

Good - umm....Bedard, I guess?

Bad - this offense

Ugly - holy c rap this offense is bad

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  • 4/22/12
  • 4htr
Good----- Starting pitching again
Bad------Meek
Ugly.......The offensive jugger---not , Pirate hitters
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  • 4/22/12
  • doc hamp

"Next thing you know, Doc will want Cedeno Back!"

I'll take the worst Clint Barmes, which we're getting, over the best Ronnie Cedeno, which we actually were getting. But, wow, has Barmes been bad!

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  • 4/22/12
  • keithconto
It must be something in the food. FA's come here and fall apart.
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