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    • FIRE DWAYNE MURPHY
  • 5/15/12
  • HASHTAGLOVETHISTEAM
Bochy is refusing to play Brandon Belt, might be able to buy low.
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  • 5/15/12
  • JaysQuattro

I think we already have our 1st baseman and its Bautista. If they can find a middle of the order bat in a left fielder, then Snider goes to right and Lind to the bench. EE remains at DH.

I think that Buatista moving to 1st provides us with the most flexibility. I think a good hitting corner outfielder will be easier to land than a good 1st baseman.

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  • 5/15/12
  • lee_marv1n

This thread is a great example of the fanboy mentality that ruins this board.

You guys have it all figured out. Clearly firing Dwayne Murphy is going to turn this club into a dynasty.

Next we can fire Bruce Walton because he isn't turning guys like Hutch into Cy Young winners.

#FIREAA


Edited 5/15/12   by  lee_marv1n
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  • 5/15/12
  • lee_marv1n

Jays pitching staff is leading the league in walks. It's clearly Bruce Walton's fault the pitching staff isn't throwing strikes. They also give up too many dingers.

#FIREBW

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  • 5/15/12
  • saxrdrunk

Zaun will have all the answers regarding Lind's problems tonight:

@greggzaun: Tune in at 630 as I attempt to break down the problems in Adam Lind's swing on Blue Jays Connected

Hope Murphy's watching, lol.

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  • 5/15/12
  • CHRlS

"Clearly firing Dwayne Murphy is going to turn this club into a dynasty.

Next we can fire Bruce Walton because he isn't turning guys like Hutch into Cy Young winners."

I think most people would agree that coaching can only take a player so far. I think coaches are relevant to the point of establishing an approach, and identifying/rectifying problems. Beyond that, the execution is up to the player.

I think the big difference between Murphy and Walton is that the pitching problems seemed more tied to execution than approach. For example, if I'm not mistaken, Romero's recent control problems were tied to him rushing his delivery. Beyond the coaching staff helping to identify the source of the problem, the onus is now on Romero to fix it.

With the hitting, it seems like the problems are as much to do with approach than anything. I don't have a problem with a player attacking early pitches or working the count, but it seem like they are doing neither. They seem to be taking strikes early on, and swinging at pitches out of the zone later on the count. This is my impression in any event, the number may indicate otherwise.

In short, I don't think all struggles are created equal. The source of the hitting woes seem like they may be more readily fixable with a different approach via a different coach than the pitching.

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  • 5/15/12
  • Dr_Dinger
Can we just #FDM?
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  • 6/2/12
  • BluenoseBlueJayFan

bump

#FDM!!!!!!

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  • 6/2/12
  • landingdoc
I don't know how logic-driven AA can't see there's a problem here that won't be rectified until Murph's gone.
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  • 6/2/12
  • codster543
Fire DM!!!
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  • 6/3/12
  • thehurl

"The sad thing is most GMs and FOs go by wins and losses, and that's all they care about."

Texas was 35-28 when they fired their hitting coach last year. Marlins were 31-30 when they fired theirs, Indians 39-31. Of course this was only effective for 1 of the 3 teams. Rangers went up by almost a run a game and went 61-38 after. The Marlins dropped from 3.98 runs/game to 3.78 and went 41-60. Indians dropped from 4.39 runs/game to 4.32 and went 41-51 after.

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  • 6/3/12
  • Torontofan
I don't know the statistics on this, but I would think changing your hitting coach mid-season wouldn't benefit your team. Kinda like the very small sample you showed.
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  • 6/3/12
  • thehurl
Don't have the numbers for previous seasons...Angels have scored 0.6 more runs per game since they fired Hatcher...of course that could probably be attributed directly to Wells injury and Pujols starting to hit.
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  • 6/9/12
  • eastcoastjaysfan

"THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS OFFENSE"

-GRANT77

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  • 6/9/12
  • eastcoastjaysfan

What will happen is we'll blow Atlanta out tomorrow 15-0 and the overall runs scored at the end of the series will look fantastic.

ALL IS WELL IN BLUE JAY LAND

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