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    • Imagine if the Sox got Yu Darvish, Beltran and kept Papelbon
  • 5/17/12
Oops! Matt Kemp. Jeff Kemp/Jeff Kent... they all sound the same.
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  • 5/17/12
Can Clark Kent pitch?
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  • 5/17/12
bill nye can pitch with SCIENCE!
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  • 5/17/12
I made a vow to not see the spiderman reboot... Destoryed what the other films did..... sad really
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  • 5/17/12
But he tends to throw the high (nuclear) heat.
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  • 5/17/12

Darvish? The Sox, Yankees, Jays and Rangers were the teams heavily interested in Yu Darvish. The Sox were the team that needed him the most and they failed to pull the trigger. Sox had HUGE INTEREST in Darvish.

Beltran? He is putting up mvp calibur stats up and he signed a measly 2 year $26 million. Sox were heavily interested in him and needed a RF. Look at all the Beltran and Sox talk. Sox had HUGE INTEREST in Beltran.

Papelbon? Do I really need to make a case why the Sox should keep Papelbon? Cmon man. Sox were fools in thinking that he could be replaced with Bailey or Bard.

3 strikes for the Sox in the offseason.

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  • 5/17/12

ZING!!!!

well played

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  • 5/17/12
No, I never said any of those things. The voices in your head may have but I've already warned you about listening to them.
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  • 5/17/12
they allow computers in padded rooms? and how is it posting in a straight jacket?
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OH I KNOW!! I KNOW!!!! 2nd base and catcher!
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  • 5/17/12
Except for the fact that your additions would have added $45M+ to payroll and you know nothing about the finances of baseball, yeah you got it right (or not).
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  • 5/17/12
Yeah, all for an additional $31 million this season, and $35 million toward the luxury tax. And since all that salary would be over the tax limit, and the Sox have been over each of the past 2 seasons, that's an additional $14 million on top of that. So for ONLY $49 million more they could have had those 3 players. Wow, what a bargain.
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  • 5/17/12

Darvish = $10 million
Beltran = $13 million
Papelbon = $12.5 million

Check your math again..... +$45 million? Those 3 players would add only $35.5 million. Now subtract the contracts like the $5 million spent on Ross/Sweeney, Bailey contract, etc.

If you want to take out Beltran and Sox didn't do that terrible Bailey trade, the Sox would have Josh Reddick who is playing like an all-star with .280 avg and 9 home runs already. Now tell me that you prefer Sweeney over Josh Reddick!

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  • 5/17/12
And you are still adding all the Bailey, Ross, Sweeney, etc. contracts.
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  • 5/17/12

Who combined make a pittance compared to what you wanted to add.

Here's the numbers for you.

Ross - $3 million
Sweeney - $1.75 million
Bailey - $3.9 million

Total - $8.65 million

Darvish - $5.5 million/$9.33 million AAV for Luxury Tax calc.
Papelbon - $12.5 million
Beltran - $13 million

Total - $31 million/$34.833 million AAV.

So even subtracting the 3 players you listed the Sox would still be adding $26.183 million, all of it over the luxury tax which would in turn add another $10.47 million this year. That's still an additional $36.5 million they'd spend this year, on top of what is already the third highest payroll in the game. But of course when you ignore the dollars part of it and simply whine about wanting every and any player out there (not to mention living in a fantasy world where the players would have put up the exact same stats in Boston as they did elsewhere) everything becomes a lot more simplistic.

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  • 5/17/12
imagine if the sox signed and/or traded for everyone who is having a good year. We'd win the world series! and the owner's would take a half-billion dollar loss.
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  • 5/17/12

I said you can take out Beltran, Sweeney and Bailey out of the equation and kept Josh Reddick who looks like an all star right now.

And you think that was a good trade for the Sox?

Almost as good as Mark Melancon trade.

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  • 5/17/12

Do you know the difference between the Sox having a huge interest in a player in the offseason and "just grabbing every superstar"? $26 million for 2 years is a cheap deal when a player is putting up mvp calibur stats. Papelbon was in the Sox hands.

Did you see how the Sox spent like almost $400 million on just 3 players (crawford, a-gon and beckett) and people want to make an issue out of a cy young calibur SP, mvp calibur outfielder and a rolaids relief closer for like $30 million?


Edited 5/17/12   by  drewhomer
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  • 5/17/12
Wow, Reddick is off to a hot start. Not like any of us haven't seen that before. Oh wait, we have. And after he goes into his usual mid-season tailspin as pitchers stop tossing him fastballs and instead let him flail away at sliders and curveballs his average will drop like a stone just like it has in the past.
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