I loved Will, his hit to send us to the series is my greatest Giant memory, but he doesn't have the stats. He would have been a sure thing if he'd of paid the price and stayed in shape. The one off season he worked with Mackey Shilstone he led the league in ribbies and should have been MVP, but after that all he did was drink beer and go fishing. God bless him for that, but it's not condusive to a long career. Murphy played his way out of the hall after a great early career. The other 3 I agree belong. Especially Belle, who probably had more RBI'S then any player in history with less the 2,000 hits. Just a guess.

Garvey needs accounting classes!!

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BUCK O'NEIL

AND,....."Steve Garvey,is NOT my Padre"!.

Curious.Why do you say,"Mattingly for sure,as for Garvey,you have to put in Clark,Rice,Murphy,Dawson and Belle before him"...When Garvey had more hits,RBI`s,homers,and scored more runs than Mattingly?In addition,before Ripken came along had the longest consecutive games played streak in NL history,5 100 RBI seasons and 6 200 hit seasons?.
Personally,I don`t think EITHER one should go in,not while Gil Hodges still waits with his 372 homers and 7 100 RBI seasons,in addition to being generally recognized as the greatest fielding first baseman of his generation.But if its Donnie or Garv,the numbers back Garvey.

Dodger don't deserve to be in the HOF!!

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HAHAHA!!..ONLY a Giants fan could make that claim!...

Mays > Robinson
Matthewson > Koufax
Marichal > Drysdale
Rest of Giants HOF's > Rest of Dodgers HOF's

Lon Simmons > Vin Scully

P.S. Fernando was a TUB!!!

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Ok.But on the other hand to that,are the ones who ARE in the Hall,simply because they played long!..I don`t agree with it either.It sickens me to see Don Sutton and Phil Niekro for example enshrined!..And in Sutton`s case,i`m a Dodger fan!...But in no way,did I ever consider him a "great" pitcher,good and times very good,but never great.And I`m of the believe,you only enshrine the "greats" of this game,not the ones who played a long time and were very good.
Good points you make though.Well done.

Naa....Try this instead:

Mays>The Duke
Mathewson>Vance/Grimes
Koufax>>>Marichal
Drysdale>Perry
Sutton>ooops!..No more S.F.Giants!
Pee Wee Reese>oops.no more Giants his era!
Jackie Robinson??...Well,there would be no Mays if not for him!..And besides,NO Giant can ever wear #42 because of him!.Only a DODGER,has his number retired for ALL teams!

As for Simmons and Vinny....HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!...You might have a better case for Russ Hodges,but that wouldn`t work either,cuz it would be:
Red Barber>R.Hodges

{Fernando WAS a tub,but an awful good one at that!}

No more Giants? Um....Giants have more HOF's than Dodgers...

Marichal carries a much bigger bat!!

www.dodgerblues.com/images/roseboro-marichal.jpg

HASAN CHOP!!

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Sandy....no wonder he has a chicks name!!

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lol

Can`t argue with you on Marichal`s "big bat"!

"Jackie Robinson??...Well,there would be no Mays if not for him!..And besides,NO Giant can ever wear #42 because of him!.Only a DODGER,has his number retired for ALL teams!"

Robinson did a great thing for Blacks in baseball, but come on, the argument that a guy like Mays would never have had a shot had it not been for Robinson is plain dumb.

You have to figure SOMEONE would have been the first black at some point. The Brooklyne Dodgers and Jackie Robinson happened to be the lucky match

Was just a dig at Zitocain.But actually,its not that far a stretch.Jackie came along in 1947,Willie 4 years later.Now what if it wasn`t Jackie,and the first black came along and failed?....It could have been 10-20 years before the color line was broke.Heck,it was what,1959 before the Red Sox had their first black player,Pumpsie Green?..So yeah,if not for Jackie,Willie just might have been another Buck o`Neil or Josh Gibson.
So really,"luck" didn`t really have as much to do with it as the vision of Dodger Exec Branch Rickey,and the greatness of Dodger Jackie Robinson.