No really I thought majors was the same as triple a but if you have some doing great down there they won't be awful in the majors most of the time.

His WHIP and ERA are worse this summer at Norfolk than they were in 2010 so he has regressed from his 2010 form. His numbers at MLB and MiLB in 2011 were abysmal at best. So by all means let us repeat the 2010 process and bring him up only to fail once again and waste his 2013 campaign before it starts.

On a side note, I would wish that you keep it civil and not snarky.

orioles are 42-35 and 5 games out nearly at the midway point, and people are complaining? and saying they are faltering lol at the beginning of the season if we all were told theyd be 42-35 and only 5 out and in second place , and on top in wc race, wed all have been elated, as bick says, its a long season, relax, any thing near a .500 SEASON IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT, AND NOW WERE CONTENDIDNG. ID SAY WERE SITTEN PRETTY

"sitting pretty"...?????? I'm not complaining about the record. This team is in a funk and looks like they are going thru the motions. The ball that dropped in RF the other day. Jones foolish lack of concentration last nite. Poor approaches at the plate. Pitchers throwing batting practice at game time.

Buck has work to do!

Will everyone just calm down.

you sound like the guy I was listening to the whole game yesterday just babbling on during the whole game yesterday.

I think that what some people are suggesting is that they would prefer 5 shutout innings from a starter over 3 innings, 8 ER's from a starter. Tillman will not be consistent; he might go 6 or 7 on occasion but will usually get pulled in the 4th or 5th due to pitch count or walks. I have been a big Tillman fan and have thought that he might one day reinvent himself, but it's not happening. Yes, he is still very young but at age 24, he's been a professional for about 1/4th of his life, if he has not changed by now, I don't think it will happen. Three choices, be happy with 5 innings, unleash him from the pitch count, or trade him. If we need to wait for Tillman to throw fewer pitches, instead of allowing him to throw more, then I say we should consider trading him to Detroit. He will throw a lot of pitches, he will walk a lot of guys, he does not seem able to break this so it is either something that we have to live with or just get rid of him and let him play somewhere that they don't mind him throwing 130 pitches to throw a complete game no-hit shutout while walking 7 guys. Send him to Detroit, maybe him and Verlander will thrive together while they pitch their 127 or 131 pitch games. The Tigers manager seems to be the only person in baseball willing to allow such a thing.

Tillman’s last 10 starts in the majors (2011).

(4/18) 3 ER 6.2 IP
(4/30) 1 ER 5 IP
(5/5) 8 ER 3.2 IP
(5/11) 1 ER 6 IP
(5/16) 0 ER 5 IP
(5/22) 1 ER 5 IP
(5/27) 1 ER 4.1 IP
(6/30) 5 ER 4.1 IP
(8/6) 2 ER 7 IP
(8/11) 6 ER 2.2 IP

In 5 of the 10 starts, he allowed 1 run or less, in 7 of the 10 starts he allowed 3 runs or less. He usually lasted around 5 innings or less. The reason why he lasted so short is because of pitch count and walks. Three starts before the first start that appears on this list, April 2nd against Tampa Bay, Tillman pitched 6 no-hit innings but he was lifted due to a pitch count of 101. Six innings is not as nice as seven, but no hits is better than 20. lol