Joeys contract through 2016...
2013 29 Cincinnati Reds $17,000,000 2014 30 Cincinnati Reds $12,000,000 2015 31 Cincinnati Reds $14,000,000 2016 32 Cincinnati Reds $20,000,000 2017 33 Cincinnati Reds $22,000,000
Joey doesn't reach $25 million 2018.
The Reds five year extension offer would be 2013-2017 season for Phillips. That is why Joey's contract is back loaded, so the Reds could also sign Phillips.
Phillips will be 32 in the first year of his extension, and run through his age 36 season. Leaving him to be a free agent in the season he turns 37.
I think the 5 year deal is a smart move for the Reds, and I would not go beyond the 5 years guaranteed. I would include an option for a 6th year if it got the deal done.
Joey accepted a back loaded deal, Phillips should be a team player and take the 5 year extension at 12 million per season. It's a fair deal.
I would say no, it bothers me that he would reject that deal. I think its more than fair. Phillips already has declining speed and power. No way I would go 6 guaranteed.
I am still okay with letting him walk. Phillips has to realize that the Reds have several guys in the system fully capable of taking over second. He might pull a Coco and get less elsewhere.
I think the only team that would sign him to the money he wants is LA Dodgers at this point. Or the Giants. And I think the Cardinals would offer him a contract, believe it or not. But I dont think BP would go there.
What a cancer:
"See, that's what I'm talking about... #OPENINGDAY in MY CITY #Cincinnati is the BEST DAY IN THE ?WORLD... THANK YOU SO MUCH #BPFansShawty"
He started to use "MY CITY" in his tweets regarding baseball when Votto got his contract. Or the news of Votto's contract broke to media on Monday.
Clearly he is sending a message that he thinks he's top dog on the Reds.
If he would just quit trying to be Ali, and keep his mouth shut.. And respect his teammates and the front office like Votto did.... Then I would get off his case and be a fan again.
get over myself, you better tweet that to BP..
I am entitled to my opinion, your entitled to yours. I have to right to express mine. Its not because I am conceited. I could care less about BP. But this is a forum where people discuss their views, so my views will be expressed. Get over yourself if your offended by someone who's opinion differentiates from your own.
I have posted links, upon links... and have went through this several times on this board..
Let me go on record as saying I hope Phillips gets his contract and signs for 5 years (I wouldnt give him anymore). I wish he would of handled some things (interviews, media interactions) a little bit differently. I think he is a great fan guy.. No one can pick it better at second. Do I think we could go with prospects and save money, yes. But I am not against resigning him if it makes sense for the Reds.
I am tired of arguing something so petty and stupid. I can't wait till he signs his contract so this board can put this whole thing to rest. And BP can go back to being a fan guy and player he is.
I think it needs done sooner rather than later, because I do think its a distraction. And a distraction that needs to be gone. Because its only one game, but I really liked what I saw from this team on Thursday..
I am officially done arguing on this topic..
Its not wrong, just a true observation... Its on twitter, look at the dates... Open your eyes, just stating the obvious that any person with the intellect can see and read.
But I am not about to argue with an internet warrior anymore.... I am washing my hands with this topic and the lack of intelligence you represent.
"I am washing my hands with this topic."
Great news! I'll be sure to remember that.
The problem with free agency and BP is the new 900 lb. gorilla on the block: the Los Angeles Dodgers. Someone spends that kind of money, and they want results. And LA the city would allow BP to be the celebutard of his dreams.
If BP turns down the deal, it will be impossible to trade him. Why give up prospects for him if you can wait and get him for just cash?
Are you talking about the Hamilton link? that said nothing that it was Phillips and if it is in the book again I will ask what page that it says that it was Phillips. Because all I seen was Hamilton just suspected that some players had a problem with his attention. The Cardinal brawl Phillips just said what he did to fire up his team for a big series. How was he to know his team would whimper out to the divisions big bullies. As far as the fight nothing happen until Carpenter started it. Phillips and that whinny face off was broke up without any incident except maybe some name calling.
Let me go on record as saying a five year contract is to long for Phillips and the Reds are silly to offer it. Phillips would be even more dumber if he doesn't except it after saying he wants to be a Red. Still that is no reason for bad mouthing Phillips because he has always been a team player for the Reds. Phillips tweeting is no different than us posting on a message board. He has his right to voice his opinion to the public as much as we do. People just need to separate his personal life from his baseball life because they are two different games.
As far as a distraction. Just what is it distracting the Reds from? This team had one winning season in the last eleven. Maybe a distraction is what this team needs. LOL
"Because its only one game"
I like this statement because as a fan I feel the same. BUT to the Reds and their players it is a business. This is how they make their living so you can't blame the players for wanting the money for as long as they can get it and you also can't blame the management for not wanting to give up the money.