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    • The 2012 Good, Bad, and Ugly Thread
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  • 4/18/12
  • lvbucfan12

Good - pitching, aside from JMac's first inning

Bad - PRNW's grounding into 2 dp's with RISP

Ugly - the team's overall ability with RISP

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  • 4/20/12
  • lvbucfan12

Good: Morton and Presley's in the parker.

Bad: Leaving Hughes in for a third inning

Ugly: This God forsaken offense, the errors and especially Barmes' attempt at a play at the plate.

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  • 4/20/12
  • kison25

Good: Pitching.

Bad: offense and defense.

Ugly: Pirates probably would have won this game 1-0 with a clean defensive effort.

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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

The Good - Presley's IPHR. Tabata with 2 hits. The pitching - I'll take 2 ERs in 9 innings, any day.

The Bad - Hurdle just simply can't put Barajas, Alvarez, and Barmes back-to-back-back, in the line-up. That's gotta stop. Because 0 for 9, with 4 K's, is not only the result, but the EXPECTED result. That's patently obvious, at this point.

The Ugly - Clint Barmes at SS, doing a Chase d'Arnaud impersonation. Barmes is becoming a bad joke.

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie

Clint Barmes?

I thought that guy was supposed to be good.

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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose
He was supposed to be better than what he's been, so far. Nobody expected greatness, but nobody expected Barmes to wind up looking worse than Aki Iwamura, either. Barmes has been so stenchy, Brian Bixler would be a step up.
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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie

Either he or Cedeno, right?

How much is this Barmes guy getting PAID, and who brought him here?

Edited 4/21/12   by  GreenWeenie
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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

""How much is this Barmes guy getting PAID""

¦2 years/$10.5M (2012-13)
¦signed by Pittsburgh as a free agent 11/21/11
¦12:$5M, 13:$5.5M

""and who brought him here?""

Doofus. Who else?

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie

Clint Hurdle, maybe had some influence?

If Barmes is their way of showing that everybody's "all in," he's right.

We're all in TROUBLE!

Two Doofi.

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  • 4/21/12
  • NJDave
Next thing you know, Doc will want Cedeno Back!
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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie
Do your neighbors have any castoff shortstops out on that curb? Doofus might give them a couple bucks for one.
Edited 4/21/12   by  GreenWeenie
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  • 4/21/12
  • NJDave
Not much difference between a stationary mattress and a Pirate shortstop.
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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

The funny part is, Hurle went into his whole restaurant analogy, last offseason, to explain the Pirates buying out Cedeno.

"If I ask my wife how the food was at a restaurant we just ate at, and she says, 'It was OK', we don't go back. And that's what Cedeno was - OK".

Meaning, in Hurdle's eyes, Cedeno wasn't bad, but wasn't good, either.

Meanwhile, Barmes would have to improve dramatically, to get to OK. Barmes would be like going to a restaurant, and not only getting poisoned, but getting mugged in the parking lot, to boot.

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie

It's obvious that Huntington must go if this franchise is truly committed to improvement.

People can spin wheels all they want. It keeps coming back to the same thing. Huntington.

Give the guy money to spend; this is how he does it.

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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

HeII, Greeny, I've alawys felt that Huntington shouldn't have been hired in the first place. For where the Pirates were at, in September of 2007, Nutting and Coonelly needed to find the most wizened, experienced graybeard GM they could. The last thing the team needed was some rookie GM, that would have to go through OTJ training, on the fly.

And that's exactly what they hired. It was the height of folly.

You're damm skippy Huntington needs to go. And the sooner, the better. There are better men than Huntington out there, who would jump at a chance to GM the Pirates.

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  • 4/21/12
  • CeciltheDiesel

"How much is this Barmes guy getting PAID, and who brought him here?"

Some doofus.

c

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  • 4/21/12
  • CeciltheDiesel

"Barmes would be like going to a restaurant, and not only getting poisoned, but getting mugged in the parking lot, to boot."

Couldn't you just say going to a game at PNC? I always feel poisoned and mugged (or at least robbed).

c

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  • 4/21/12
  • CeciltheDiesel

First we get rid of Doofus. Then we get rid of the guy who hired a doofus... not to mention a drunk.

Remember what Yoda said about The Sith: "Always two there are, no more, no less. A master and an apprentice."

c

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  • 4/21/12
  • GreenWeenie
I'm not so sure they would. Even if one would, I would ask myself, "why?"
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  • 4/21/12
  • Mongoose

Well, why is obvious. There are only 30 MLB GM jobs on the planet. Most of us, as Pirates fans, know who the Cards GM is, who the Rays GM is, who the Indians GM is, who the A's GM is, etc., etc.

Fame and name recognition is big, for a lot of people. In fact, wanting fame would almost be a requirement, to be an MLB GM, in the first place. Since you aren't going to be in a position to be hired, without an oversized ego.

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