This hurts extra to know we gave up Jesus Montero for this guy.

Looking at how Pineda came into camp, looking at what has transpired since his acquisition I have little faith moving forward about how he pans out for the Yankees.

Pineda hadn't looked right since the second half of last season, the Mariners seemed rather eager to deal him away without any second thought and Cashman bit.

Now Yanks are stuck with this situation and not knowing what the future holds with Pineda moving forward.

This is just sickening to digest that we parted with our best prospect in exchange for this situation.

Your right for the most part, but this ends his season.....not 2 months

WOW, I can't believe this happened.

A pitcher in the Major League has gotten hurt. has this ever happened before?

Darn right Cashman has to answer, how could he not look in to his crystal ball and not make this deal, what a clown.

But back to the injury, I have never heard of a pitch hurting their shoulder, is that common?

Wow people, really? Let's just chalk this one up to bad luck.

Did you miss the announcement that Pineda is out for the entire season, what are you referring to about 2 months.

Seems like you are trying to minimize it and downplay it but there is no way around it that we gave up our best prospect for a guy that won't throw a pitch this season in a regular season game.

Who cares is Montero isn't killing it in Seatlle.

Montero's swing and power was tailor made for right field in Yankee Stadium, we saw that when he was called up.

Moreover even in the minors Montero has started slowly and always picks it up as the year goes on.

Besides at least Montero is on the field playing in major league games, can't say the same for Pineda, can we.

It not the fact that a major league pitcher got hurt, it is who that player is, who we gave up to acquire him and the situation surrounding his acquisition.

Pineda's second half performance raised questions.

When you give up your best hitting prospect for a guy who is injured that is not bad luck only.

There is another name for that and none of them are too nice.

It is sickening. Who says there was nothing wrong with him in spring training? He had HUGE velocity issues this spring, AND the entire time after the All-Star break last year. Clearly there was a minor tear in there and Cashman is not going to admit the mistake now. How long until this bald robot is gone and someone else's problem? He'll be great in Cincinnati, just please get him out of here. He's awful, and has been for a while now.

Yeah, but next year our pitching prospect report will be awesome. We will have the greatest minor league rotation on paper that the world has ever seen.

No! It's still a great trade! We got a guy pitching great in low A ball! LOL

What I see is some are now trying to downplay it and say, oh he'll be back, its not that bad, it could have been worse. A lot of rationalization and mitigation.

He will miss the whole season, what is worse than that folks.

Do we even know how he will bounce back moving forward.

All bets are off now and nothing is a given about what we can expect moving ahead from Pineda.

Shoulder injuries on pitchers are not to be taken lightly.

whats done is done there is nothing anyone of us can do complaining about the trade isnt gonna do anything

I think its more that we gave up our top prospect to acquire this guy.

We could have gotten Roy Halladay, or Cliff Lee for him back in the day. So to me, it hurts because of the pitchers the Yankees could have acquired.

"whats done is done there is nothing anyone of us can do complaining about the trade isnt gonna do anything"

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Nah I know, just need to vent after hearing this news about Pineda today.

Really blows big time.

"I think its more that we gave up our top prospect to acquire this guy."

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That is the part that hurts, knowing who we gave up for Pineda and now this is the reality.

"Okay, here's the explanation. I traded a young hitter with "character issues" for one of the best young arms in baseball. He got hurt. It happens."

So, Pineda shows up to the esteemed New York Yankee training camp fat and out of shape, and Montero has the character issues? You should show a little "character" yourself by admitting that maybe you didn't understand what was going on regarding this trade in the first place. Instead you just put more cr*pola out there.

Cashman is not a good GM. He is a horrible GM. The only reason he survives is because the Yankees can afford to make mistakes. They can simply buy another pitcher. Nevertheless, the GM's in Tampa and Texas are much more proficient in their jobs.

When you look at what has transpired with our young pitchers in Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, you have to wonder indeed.

Doesn't Cashman have to get some of the blame for it.

I mean the whole debacle that was Joba and Hughes role is simply maddening to recall those days and Cashman as GM signed off on the moves that related to them.

What did you expect him to say. That he knew there might be a problem. Even if he knew it he would not admit it. question is why would Seattly give up a top tier pitcher for AAA catcher that still needs work. There had to be something in the works that the Yanks did not know.

"question is why would Seattle give up a top tier pitcher for AAA catcher that still needs work."

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Exactly, the Seattle GM was seemingly happy to make this deal, one has to wonder if he didn't have a feeling that this kid is just not right, since he likely watched Pineda for years and knows of him being hurt in the minors before.

Cashman will simply sprinkle money on this problem like he always does, and the Yankees will still win about 92-97 games, but this act is getting old.