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  • 4/13/12
  • phan42

Chase needs to do something radical to get back! Where's Oscar Goldman when you need him?!?!?

http://youtu.be/HofoK_QQxGc

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  • 4/13/12
  • emurph

At the end of the day, I still can't help but think that there's something that just isn't right about Chase Utley and his knees (and/or general physical condition). I've felt this way since the hip injury. I don't know what it is, but I just think it's going to be something that I don't want to know.

The secrecy; the fact that actual, licensed, medical doctors never get involved in explaining his problems; the inability to play one month followed by the ability to play 59 out of 60 games straight a few months later. The idea that light fielding drills cause him unbearable debilitating pain, but that off-season workouts designed to strengthen the knee somehow don't.

None of it has ever really added up to me. I don't know what's going on. I'm 100% convinced we're not getting the full story. I also know that licensed medical DOCTORS won't get near a camera or a microphone to provide insight (which suggests to me that the beat reporters know what's going on, and are in on the cover-up, or they're colossal idiots, because IF I'm one, that's the first place I go in chasing down this story...)

Something fishy is going on here. What it is exactly, I don't know. But your best clues that it is are that no one in a position to know can or will explain any of it to you.


Edited 4/13/12   by  emurph
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  • 4/13/12
  • Ofeydofey
He is never coming back guys. Let's send him to the glue factory (or a farm upstate if there are kids reading this)
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  • 4/13/12
  • phan42
I don't disagree with anything you wrote. Not much information coming out about him at all. I hope he makes it back and is able to be productive again, but I'm definitely worried that he may be done. I hope I am wrong.
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  • 4/13/12
  • LeftyLee

"The idea that light fielding drills cause him unbearable debilitating pain, but that off-season workouts designed to strengthen the knee somehow don't."

This sentence describes perfectly my main source of frustration. I can't stay for a response, but just wanted to add on, and ask a few burning questions of my own. I have no doubt that Utley is a hard worker that would do anything he could to avoid another problem this season, but you have to wonder, who was advising him what workouts to do in the offseason? And who was monitoring him? Wouldn't he test it now and then during the winter to see if baseball related activities would cause the new left knee problem? Why wait until March to find out?

I had a bad knee, and about 25 years ago I had it scoped, and prior to my surgery the doctor insisted I build up the quad muscles around BOTH of my knee joints. I remember asking him, why do I need to work both knees, the right one isn't injured. He told me that improper compensation injuries were a huge problem, so they wanted to make sure that the uninjured knee would be able to take the pressure from the weak one. They knew this 25 years ago, it makes me wonder what kind of care he has received. It makes me think it's just luck that his other hip never suffered a problem like this.

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  • 4/13/12
  • emurph

I don't think he's done, but I definitely think there's something going on that we're not being told about, and my question would be, if it's legitimate, why the secrecy? If Utley doesn't want to speak about it, I'm not sure I agree that's reasonable, but why not authorize a doctor, team physician, someone with an actual degree and medical credibility who is familiar with his condition to speak about the situation? To the best of my knowledge, the limited number of medical experts who've opined on Utley's injuries have done so based purely on conjecture without any familiarity, let alone knowledge, of Utley's particulars. Why don't the people who DO know ever speak up?

This is a very similar situation to that of Tiger Woods'. There's been a cone of silence required of all those who work with Tiger Woods for years. Why? Well now there's rampant speculation that Woods was a PED user and there are some very legitimate PED links to Woods.

I don't KNOW anything, but none of this with regard to Utley's injuries, smells on the "up and up" to me.

Many on this board know that my background is finance, and working in the securities markets. Almost without fail in that business, those who claimed to make money with "black box" strategies (where they would claim a high level of sophistication and guard in secrecy their actual investment methodology) were eventually proven to be crooks, scam artists, and cheaters. It's what EVERY con artist does. They tell you it's too sophisticated for you to understand and count on your own personal insecurities about your knowledge base to convince yourself that they're right.

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