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    • 2012 Minor League/Prospects Thread
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  • 8/12/12
  • famousguy
Padres Prospect have arrived, Yonder, Grandal, Forsythe, Everth, Etc OMG i can wait to watch every game here on out, those of you tat have been, know what im talkin about
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  • 8/12/12
  • knoccy
Wait did the rest of San Diego finally get the games on TV? lol
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  • 8/14/12
  • carinosall
oh oh, look out for Liriano...in 12 games in August, batting .455, .529obp, and slugging .591 in AA. That's quite the tear. If he keeps this up, any chance we'll see him up here next year? Does this put the brakes on any RF search/trade/off season signing...thoughts?
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  • 8/14/12
  • aztec333
maybe near the end of next year.
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  • 8/14/12
  • caminito

A 21 year old who will have less than 200 AB's in AA... ready to battle for the starting RF job in 2013?

I think we have to get past this insanity of wanting to rush every kid to the big leagues based on small sample sizes in the lower levels.

Yes teams are doing it more and more these days - the Orioles just did it with Machado - but I think it has to be done only with EXCEPTIONAL talent. And exceptional talent is rare...

Mike Trout at least got over 400 plate appearances in AA and nearly 100 in AAA. He hit .326 in AA over his 400 PA's - Liriano is hitting .277 in AA, nearly 50 point difference

Is Liriano ready - I guess it's possible - but not likely - Let's let these kids bake until ready rather than rushing them to San Diego because we don't like the guy who is here now

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  • 8/14/12
  • carinosall
so do they try and sign an aging RF to a one year deal?...like Tori Hunter? This is certainly old padre regime type thinking, and hasn't really worked out for us in the past. I'd still like them to trade or sign a top RF this offseason. Maybe Liriano can play CF if Maybin continues to fail...plus as long as Liriano is doing well, that just ups his trade value. All that said, if he continues his hot hitting ways, I can see management staying pat with Deno and Venable next year, and calling the kid up mid-season...
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  • 8/14/12
  • knoccy
His progression and ability to adjust has been remarkable. I wouldn't rush him but a call up at the end of next year isn't out of the question.
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  • 8/14/12
  • knoccy
He was so cold when he got up to AA but he's been hitting .429 in his last 10 games.. This seems to always be the case with him, start slow and adjust. I like that he's able to make adjustments but hopefully he'll be more consistent next year in AAA
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  • 8/14/12
  • carinosall
agreed. he gets moved up to AA and hits .170 over a months worth of ab's, and the next month seemingly figures it all out to the tune of .400 +...and he did the same thing last year when they moved him up...rymer the "remarkable" rocket man...sure would be fun if he keeps it up
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  • 8/14/12
  • carinosall
he should, as AA san antonio seems to be a much harder place/league to hit at than AAA Tucson...
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  • 8/14/12
  • caminito

I am totally opposed to the philosophy of signing an aging vet or a bounceback player -
I'd prefer to see them go get someone on a 2 year deal with an option even if they have to slightly overpay - we need a consistent hitter in RF that can hit more than .245 and who can complement a guy like CQ, Headley and Alonso - a middle of the order producer type...

I have been over the Will Venable Experiment since last year - he hit .245 in 2010 - .246 in 2011 - and is hitting .245 in 2012 - I think a pattern has emerged - that's what he is going to be. He will have over 1500 AB's at the end of this season and that is a large enough sample to know what he is... he had a good month of May this year and once again the Hope that Venable is going to emerge got legs again - but as with all of his good Septembers it's short lived and goes right back to being a .245 hitter...

Deno sadly now is stamped with the Utility Guy role and will most likely have to leave San Diego to shake it... I could live with Deno in RF for a year if the Pads do decide to go that way - I have been guilty of calling him only a 4th or 5th OF'er but what he is - is a good baseball player... but watch my words - if Deno was named the every day starter he would be hated by the ASG because he won't hit HR's in a "Power Position" -

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  • 8/14/12
  • knoccy
This is my only gripe about Will, I don't mind him but he's taking time away from Denorfia.
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  • 8/14/12
  • carinosall

totally agree about the aging vet thing...and about Will. I also think that petco seems to hurt his stats more than most...I think he'd do much better in a place like Philly, and a move to center field...

I'm still holding out hope the stars align and they trade for Alex Gordon, no matter if Liriano continues to rocket...

I can't help but get excited at the thought of adding Gordon and Peavy, and having Cashner stay healthy as a starter next year...go ahead and call me homer, but that's as good of team as any to compete for a WS - (yeah, i said it)

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  • 8/14/12
  • caminito

Historically it's been hard for guys to shake the Utility tag once managers see them in that role I
I think the Pads have the money to go get a front line pitcher and a productive RF... Filling those two holes would go a long way in improving the team for 2013 with some hope of player closer to how they are playing in the second half than how they played in the first half -

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  • 8/14/12
  • caminito
I love Jake Peavy but I am not on board in going after him
Jake is always a pitch away from another injury - more so than many pitchers - and to think that he has gone this long in 2012 without an injury is a miracle I think..
We have a staff loaded with injured pitchers and Jake seems like a big expensive risk to me - a risk that we are not at a stage to take in my opinion
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  • 8/14/12
  • carinosall

so true about Peavy...crazy pitching motion...i mean the guy tore his lat off for crissakes...

but I still can't help but love the guy and hope to see him again in a Padre uniform.

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  • 8/14/12
  • knoccy
If we had to go after one pitcher for a one year deal, I would go with Edwin Jackson.
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  • 8/14/12
  • caminito

I may be the biggest Peavy fan on this board - he's one of my favorite baseball players ever - not just favorite Padres - in all of baseball - of all time

But I am off the sentimental wagon - when we had nothing and no chance to REALLY improve the most enjoyable part of being a Padres fan was seeing Greg Maddux, David Wells, Mike Piazza... but now I want to field the best possible team if the means are truly there to do that

Peavy if healthy and back in the NL and back in PETCO would most likely be better than he has been in Chicago - and that would be great - it's just counting on him to STAY healthy again over the course of the season doesn't seem likely

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  • 8/14/12
  • stuck_in_nyc

the problem with will might be petco and not will.

2010 road ops
will: 771

2011 road ops
will: 711

2012 road ops
will: 865

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  • 8/14/12
  • padstyles
Venable is a league average hitter once you adjust for park. Looking at his raw BA, without taking OBP, or SLG, or Petco into account, is not the way to judge him, or anyone. His career OPS+ is 105, league average is 100. Now I'm not saying he should be out there everyday. He can't hit lefties worth a darn. But overall his performance is just fine when you adjust for park and look past BA.
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