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  • 4/24/12
  • hardslide

No you didnt. You just made a statement.

You might want to show the realtionship between OPS and runs scored, and why they are a valid measurement to consider.

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  • 4/24/12
  • jabloomf1230
Actually, the relationship is between team RS and team OPS.
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  • 4/24/12
  • BarneyFan
You did NOT.You simply said that it relates to runs scored.Exactly what does it mean? O ? P? S?
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  • 4/24/12
  • hardslide
Regardless, what I think posters are interested in knowing is WHY this is such a valuable tool?
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  • 4/24/12
  • windangit
What more would you need than a strong correlation between the 2? That seems to be enough to me for it to be a valid statistic to use
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  • 4/24/12
  • BarneyFan
I ask you a serious question and you just repeat yourself.Maybe somebody else would like to give it a shot.
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  • 4/24/12
  • windangit
No, I said it correlates, which is different. That means that when you have one, you will likely find the other as well. If a team has a high OPS, they will likely be good at scoring runs as well. OPS stands for OBP + slugging
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  • 4/24/12
  • popeluvsme
If only we could get on base and slug in the same inning!! lol
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  • 4/24/12
  • windangit
That certainly wouldn't hurt.
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  • 4/24/12
  • BarneyFan
Well,of course if you have a lot of guys on base and a bunch of extra base hits....you will score a lot.But now I get the concept of that statistic,which I did not before.OBP plus slugging.IMHO you can be a very good hitter and not be a slugger.That is what Barney is.A singles hitter will not have a high OPS will he?He still is valuable if his BA is high with RISP.Not sure what Barney's is,but even without that singles hitters have their place especially middle infielders.
I can't remember a middle infielder on the Cubs since Ernie Banks and Sandberg with a high OPS.I can't think of another one.
Edited 4/24/12   by  BarneyFan
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  • 4/24/12
  • chad1983
Not to mention his off the field problem... I am guessing having a possible rap<e charge against him isn't exactly helping his mentality on the field. And yes, I think he is innocent.
Edited 4/24/12   by  chad1983
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  • 4/24/12
  • windangit
IMO, a player has to either get on base well, slug well, our do both adequately. Barney doesn't fit that for me. Also, relying on risp stats doesn't work well as those stats tend to vary from year to year.
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  • 4/24/12
  • windangit
Police have said that no charges will be brought against him.
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  • 4/24/12
  • chad1983

Good. I haven't kept up on the case. It would still could affect his mentality, though. I mean, Braun won his appeal and he had a really bad spring. Things like that can affect a player.

And yeah, he could still get civil charges (which is BS imo).

He is a heck of a hitter, though. And good base runner.

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  • 4/24/12
  • windangit
A civil suit is possible, but on what grounds?
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  • 4/24/12
  • chad1983
I am not a lawyer, but people usually bring civil charges on some trumpt up stuff when charges don't get pressed. It is stupid.
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  • 4/24/12
  • windangit
It doesn't make sense, what damages were there? She had buyers remorse that she didn't get any money up front?
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  • 4/24/12
  • chad1983

lol probably. She could make up some cra.p like he violated her right by touching her or something stupid.

Heck, Nicole Brown Simpson's family got a few million for civil charges for wrongful death, even though he was found not guilty

Edited 4/24/12   by  chad1983
Edited 4/24/12   by  chad1983
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  • 4/24/12
  • jerm42991

2011

Top Scoring teams/OPS ranking

Boston-1st
Yankees-3rd
Texas-2nd
Detroit-4th
Cards-5th
Toronto-11th
Rockies-8th
Reds-10th
DBacks-9th
KC-7th
Brewers-6th

So the top 11 teams in run scored were also the same top 11 teams in OPS. There is your proof of how important of a stat it is

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