I can tell you're a positive person; I'm really speaking mostly in generalities not specifically to you. Yes, eventually the Braves would shed his contract, but look how long it took for them to shed Lowe's contract. It's pretty obvious the Braves only want to pay a small chunk of a player's remaining contract, if they're looking to get rid of him. So, when I say you should accept it I mean you should accept the fact that unless a team decides to take on all of Uggla's contract then you should get used to him playing 2nd base every day for the Atlanta Braves; because, as we've discussed, what else could they do with him?
I want to reiterate, I'm not saying you should accept his performance, actually to a small degree I am, but mostly I'm saying you should just accept that we're stuck with him for the long haul.
As for sending him down to the minors...The only way they'll do that is if they fake an injury. They aren't going to embarass Uggla by just straight demoting him, so they'll give him the option of faking an injury and "rehabbing" in the minors. I'm telling you, that's the only way he'll get set down. The guy's a 7 year vet and under contract for YEARS, there's no way they'll embarass him like that; they'll give him the option.
yes, with that kind of money on the line and this ownership its all about the investment..Uggla is a stock bottoming out you hope to <hell will rise at some point. I dont know if it was ever about playing the best 9 players and getting the win but it's sure not now. Owners will let the teams sink and not make the playoffs over swallowing contracts..its not all about winning but money, big contracts
Braves have been pretty masterful over the years in finding injuries in under-performers.
Dan has a serious case of hackitosis. It could prove fatal if untreated. It's known to be contagious too.
Couldn't agree more. Plus he will be 37 during the last year of that deal. I didn't think there was a chance anyone would claim him.
RAJ thinking someone would take that contract and give up something of value is like that dumb guy in every fantasy league who offers you Brian Bogusevic for Albert Pujols.
There's absolutely no doubt he's been terrible for a good portion of his career here and I'm actually the most concerned that I've been about him right now. Last year we could deal with the slump in the first half because he was at least providing power, but in July and most of June this season he didn't even provide that.
I guess I'm just willing to wait it out another month because if he does get hot then he could make this a completely different team and Reed doesn't have that upside. And I get your point about being able to still give them rest if Uggla is benched, but then you're shifting players from position to position (mainly Prado), which is something he has already stated bothered him last season.
Excellent stats though and it's scary that this is even a legitimate discussion.
Well I wouldn't say they would rather sink over not making the playoffs. I'm sure if a team came calling about Uggla in the future, and they were willing to take, oh say, 90% of his contract then I'm sure they'd trade him, but seeing that they only get X amount to spend, giving a chunk of that to another team so a former player can play for said other team doesn't make much sense.
The Braves aren't in a position to eat contracts, so they have to make the most of what they have. The margin for error is so thin that if they sign a player to a long term deal, and he doesn't perform, then they are stuck with him.
I don't think we are at the point where paying part of Uggla's contract is a, "Well at least we'll have X amount for other players" territory yet.
Oh, I don't know, but if I had to assume that if the Braves were to embarrass a 7-year vet with out any conscience whatsoever, it will more than likely sour other players for wanting to play for the Braves. They'll basically be saying, "We don't care about you as a person, just an easily replacable commodity."
From what I've gathered in my time here on earth, people don't like being treated that way.
I decided to look at Uggla's monthly stats for his whole career, and it's remarkable--people have pointed towards him always being a streaky hitter, and I always had that same impression....but his monthly stats show that he has in fact had his worst four months of his career in Atlanta, and arguably maybe his 5 worst months. And that's having played 5 years with the Marlins and only 1 and 2/3 years with us. Proving legitimate concern for his performance. He did seem to have a better approach tonight, so hopefully he's about to turn things around.
April .253 .319 .410 .728 May .356 .402 .508 .910 June .309 .373 .706 1.079 July .252 .314 .439 .753 August .291 .355 .500 .855 September .221 .269 .361 .630
April .219 .294 .429 .723May .307 .391 .614 1.005June .241 .292 .500 .792 July .248 .328 .465 .793 August .236 .314 .434 .748 September .214 .331 .418 .749
April .255 .333 .480 .813 May .347 .425 .827 1.251 June .264 .369 .563 .932 July .190 .292 .381 .673 August .217 .345 .359 .704 September .258 .377 .427 .804
April .218 .322 .423 .745 May .200 .313 .432 .745 June .253 .366 .474 .840July .241 .347 .379 .726 August .298 .427 .521 .949September .233 .331 .515 .845
April .295 .364 .534 .898 May .245 .370 .500 .870June .257 .327 .396 .723 July .316 .398 .611 1.009 August .319 .383 .543 .926 September .284 .371 .451 .822
April .202 .259 .394 .653 May .160 .241 .260 .501June .179 .250 .379 .629 July .293 .369 .586 .955August .340 .405 .670 1.076September .238 .347 .455 .803
April .271 .361 .424 .784May .265 .394 .480 .874June .160 .327 .321 .648 July .115 .281 .179 .461
Was there no pressure when he first came up to the big leagues? Seems he did just fine then. Was there no pressure on him at other points of his career? Seems he did just fine.
I don't buy any excuses, especially when a guy is getting paid that much money. And looking at his numbers with the Marlins, they were actually better overall than I thought they had been--all he needed to do was be that hitter, nothing more.