They have people like Hollins as a fan base. What's to wonder?

I can tell you're a positive person; I'm really speaking mostly in generalities not specifically to you. Yes, eventually the Braves would shed his contract, but look how long it took for them to shed Lowe's contract. It's pretty obvious the Braves only want to pay a small chunk of a player's remaining contract, if they're looking to get rid of him. So, when I say you should accept it I mean you should accept the fact that unless a team decides to take on all of Uggla's contract then you should get used to him playing 2nd base every day for the Atlanta Braves; because, as we've discussed, what else could they do with him?

I want to reiterate, I'm not saying you should accept his performance, actually to a small degree I am, but mostly I'm saying you should just accept that we're stuck with him for the long haul.

As for sending him down to the minors...The only way they'll do that is if they fake an injury. They aren't going to embarass Uggla by just straight demoting him, so they'll give him the option of faking an injury and "rehabbing" in the minors. I'm telling you, that's the only way he'll get set down. The guy's a 7 year vet and under contract for YEARS, there's no way they'll embarass him like that; they'll give him the option.

yes, with that kind of money on the line and this ownership
its all about the investment..Uggla is a stock bottoming out you hope to <hell will rise at some point.
I dont know if it was ever about playing the best 9 players and getting the win but it's sure not now. Owners will let the teams sink and not make the playoffs over swallowing contracts..its not all about winning but money, big contracts

Braves have been pretty masterful over the years in finding injuries in under-performers.

Dan has a serious case of hackitosis. It could prove fatal if untreated. It's known to be contagious too.

The Phillies would have been very wise to dump that contract....I am sooo glad they kept him. Teams who <half ass the rebuilding process are rarely successful.

I thought the Dodgers were dumb to place a waiver claim on him........and the Phillies were even dumber not to let them have him. Almost 30M a season for THREE more years.....yikes!!

Couldn't agree more. Plus he will be 37 during the last year of that deal. I didn't think there was a chance anyone would claim him.

RAJ thinking someone would take that contract and give up something of value is like that dumb guy in every fantasy league who offers you Brian Bogusevic for Albert Pujols.

"There's no way they will embarrass him like that." How about him embarrassing the Atlanta Braves? I really hope he bounces back but if he does it will still be a bad year. Send him to the trips.

There's absolutely no doubt he's been terrible for a good portion of his career here and I'm actually the most concerned that I've been about him right now. Last year we could deal with the slump in the first half because he was at least providing power, but in July and most of June this season he didn't even provide that.

I guess I'm just willing to wait it out another month because if he does get hot then he could make this a completely different team and Reed doesn't have that upside. And I get your point about being able to still give them rest if Uggla is benched, but then you're shifting players from position to position (mainly Prado), which is something he has already stated bothered him last season.

Excellent stats though and it's scary that this is even a legitimate discussion.

Well I wouldn't say they would rather sink over not making the playoffs. I'm sure if a team came calling about Uggla in the future, and they were willing to take, oh say, 90% of his contract then I'm sure they'd trade him, but seeing that they only get X amount to spend, giving a chunk of that to another team so a former player can play for said other team doesn't make much sense.

The Braves aren't in a position to eat contracts, so they have to make the most of what they have. The margin for error is so thin that if they sign a player to a long term deal, and he doesn't perform, then they are stuck with him.

I don't think we are at the point where paying part of Uggla's contract is a, "Well at least we'll have X amount for other players" territory yet.

Oh, I don't know, but if I had to assume that if the Braves were to embarrass a 7-year vet with out any conscience whatsoever, it will more than likely sour other players for wanting to play for the Braves. They'll basically be saying, "We don't care about you as a person, just an easily replacable commodity."

From what I've gathered in my time here on earth, people don't like being treated that way.

Don't look now, but Uggla had 2 hits tonight. Just sayin'.

His average has gone up the last week or so, bottoming out at .207 I believe.

I decided to look at Uggla's monthly stats for his whole career, and it's remarkable--people have pointed towards him always being a streaky hitter, and I always had that same impression....but his monthly stats show that he has in fact had his worst four months of his career in Atlanta, and arguably maybe his 5 worst months. And that's having played 5 years with the Marlins and only 1 and 2/3 years with us. Proving legitimate concern for his performance. He did seem to have a better approach tonight, so hopefully he's about to turn things around.

2006:

April .253 .319 .410 .728
May .356 .402 .508 .910
June .309 .373 .706 1.079
July .252 .314 .439 .753
August .291 .355 .500 .855
September .221 .269 .361 .630

2007:

April .219 .294 .429 .723
May .307 .391 .614 1.005
June .241 .292 .500 .792
July .248 .328 .465 .793
August .236 .314 .434 .748
September .214 .331 .418 .749

2008:

April .255 .333 .480 .813
May .347 .425 .827 1.251
June .264 .369 .563 .932
July .190 .292 .381 .673
August .217 .345 .359 .704
September .258 .377 .427 .804

2009:

April .218 .322 .423 .745
May .200 .313 .432 .745
June .253 .366 .474 .840
July .241 .347 .379 .726
August .298 .427 .521 .949
September .233 .331 .515 .845

2010:

April .295 .364 .534 .898
May .245 .370 .500 .870
June .257 .327 .396 .723
July .316 .398 .611 1.009
August .319 .383 .543 .926
September .284 .371 .451 .822

2011:

April .202 .259 .394 .653
May .160 .241 .260 .501
June .179 .250 .379 .629
July .293 .369 .586 .955
August .340 .405 .670 1.076
September .238 .347 .455 .803

2012:

April .271 .361 .424 .784
May .265 .394 .480 .874
June .160 .327 .321 .648
July .115 .281 .179 .461

Squinch, do you have a life honey.

That took 10 minutes. You do know what copy and paste is, right sweetie?

I give Uggla a pass for last season because it was clear he put too much pressure on himself and tried to be a hitter he wasn't.

<So whats the excuse for this year? One day everyone needs to wake up and realize hes a sucky hitter with big arms.

Was there no pressure when he first came up to the big leagues? Seems he did just fine then. Was there no pressure on him at other points of his career? Seems he did just fine.

I don't buy any excuses, especially when a guy is getting paid that much money. And looking at his numbers with the Marlins, they were actually better overall than I thought they had been--all he needed to do was be that hitter, nothing more.

I really think that Uggla is one of those guys who's taken weight training to the extreme. He needs to focus his attention on other things a bit more..............like hitting a baseball, for example. He doesn't get paid this insane amount of money to have Popeye arms.