NO WAY HE makes the rotation...

He really needs to be in AAA anyway and at least throw for a solid year while the REDS LEAVE HIM THE HEII ALONE

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The mismanagement of Chapman is sickening.

Dusty is determined to get him back in the bullpen this year.

That's just the point, it's not wrong. I just think he needs to locate better in order to be the pitcher he needs to be and I think he'll get that up here. BTW, you're never wrong.

So, you would rather see him in the minors this year as opposed to being in the majors learning to pitch to ML hitters? There's only so much that can be gained in the minors against live games. Come to think of it, Soto pitched out of the pen when he first got to the reds as well.

Arroyos always been overrated IMO by this organization and many of our fans]
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Now we are getting down to it. You don't like Arroyo, Ok. I've got no problem with that. If you think that at his best, he is still garbage, ok. But I honestly think that he will have a similiar season as he did two yrs. ago.

On the last part of your post, I cannot agree. Winning 17 games in 2010 with over 200 innings and having the most quality starts of any reds pitcher is not to be taken lightly. Plus, he has a month of terrible starts and that inflates his ERA for the year but many times he has pitched well.

NO

Dusty will not let it happen. I would like to see it though....more than Bailey. I think Bailey is eventually going to make the "Reds all BUST team"right there with Ty Howington, Rob Bell, Brandon CLaussen....need I go on.

I'm not buying the "he was sick" theory last year....]
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If he truly had mono, you should.

Don't you know Arroyo FAKED Mono? He's good at it, too. He even fooled his doctors and the folks at the lab.

"I'm dreaming of a white Christmas". His flames will be put out to pasture until next year. Fast is not always the best. Patience and control wins games. 6thsense, I'll one up you with a 7thsense. The score does not matter as long as the offense can keep up. One must look past the hype and get down to basics. That's all we can ask.

"The score does not matter"
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...except for the fact that we determine winners and losers based on the SCORE.

There's two problems going on here. First, stop listening to Baker. He has no say on Chapman. He only controls how players on the 25 man are used. The other problem is wannabe GM's with fantasy mindsets.

The question is not will AC make the rotation. The question is, if he does, what do you do with Bailey? And that answer is not to trade Homer or put him in the BP. We are already thin at SP and he's not needed in the pen. Neither will AC be going to the pen, if he can take Walt at his word. It would take a complete BP meltdown for that to happen. Instead, that's the strongest part of our game. He's not needed there either. He's needed right where he's going to be, in Louisville, making THEIR rotation.

I have been impressed enough this spring with Chapman to say writing him off for the whole season may have been too harsh. We'll know better when he starts cranking 6/7 innings in AAA and is not getting beat up after twice through the line ups. He was after all a SP for Cooba. He will be needed at some point to start again. I agree with Felter that he won't be the first line of defense for an injury, especially early. It will be Frances.

I also agree with Arroyo being overrated. Funny, how the last year of a contract, many players rise to the top. Too often, our ownership bases a new contract on that one year of 'hope and change' when realistically it is more likely an aberration. It happened with BP's 30/30 year, with Votto's MVP year, and maybe BP's fine 2011. But instead of peak performances, these singular outlier years are seen as trends. Ownership should be looking at the recent body of work. In 2010, Arroyo was a top 5 overall SP in the NL and the basis for his current bloated contract. That year was not repeatable. The good news, is we don't need him to be an ace. We need him to be a consistent innings eating #4 SP for us with an ERA at or just under 4.0. He should then win about half his games. Just a 12-12 or thereabouts Arroyo year works for me.

Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

What I was implying is if the opponent scores 10 runs and the offense scores 11, the Reds still win. Yes, it is the final score that matters the most.

Well, my mistake. I frankly would have come with a better disease to "fake" having. You know, like sexual mania.

Arroyo lulls them to sleep with a slow, easy delivery.

I agree with you about fantasy GMs with their approach to the game. I also agree not to take Baker too literally because what will be is what will be. However, my only point about Chapman is I'm ok with him in the pen facing ML hitters this year and I think he will be better in the long run. In fact, some of the better pitchers to where a reds uniform pitched in the pen first.

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As far as Arroyo goes, he did get injured, he was ill. There's no reason he can't pitche effectively this year like he has in yrs. past.