Without looking up the metrics or anything, I've always thought he had good range at 2B. It's just he's made a lot of errors to offset it, he's improved on it but he really used to have an inaccurate arm.

I always thought Weeks was, seriously, SERVICEABLE at 2nd. He'll never win a Gold Glove, but he won't kill you with his defense either. I've never been concerned with his D, I always thought that he'd get his stuff together and I think he has. He does have good range and I wish his throws were better, but he'll never be Brandon Phillips.

Going back on your OBP argument, I feel the same way with the walks. I don't necessarily want him to be more aggressive at the plate, but I want him to swing and miss less. A player is who they are and no amount of coaching will change it much. Experience can though. That slider low and away kills him and Dum Dum to the point of slumps. I think Hart gets into grooves where he doesn't chase it and Weeks always will chase it. I just want more from him since he is sooooo talented and I think that's why we are all upset because we know what he can be. I'm also a Weeks apologist and I think he should be in the lineup more often than not, even now.

I will admit: after watching Weeks live tonight and seeing him swing at the ball in the other batting box, my hope for him turning it around has greatly diminished.

I don't think the talent is gone, but this feels like it could be a lost season for him.

BUMP

Does he EVER come back?

Look at Dunn. He's leading the AL in walks but after a while I think pitchers say screw it and pitch to him. His other numbers stink. He may go the way of McGehee and Hall.

And now Weeks.

Well, about McGehee and Hall, here's two things:

McGehee was rumored to be going through all kinds of personal chaos last year. He might be mentally lost having lost his confidence. We've seen guys just lose it for whatever reason.

Hall was never as good an overall hitter as Weeks. Hall never was much of a OBP guy.

Brewers better hope he can "find" it. Signed through 2014.

When you really think about it, Weeks has never been a sure thing.

His career has been so up and down between getting injured, getting it, underperforming, and breaking out. About as inconsistent as they come. It does seem though like he's been in a funk ever since he got injured last year, though that may be just coincidence.

Is it a coincidence though that his best offensive years came with Sveum as hitting coach, and his best defensive years came with Willie Randolph as bench coach?

JBG bait right there.

I feel like Gonzalez being gone for the year really put the Brewers in a bad position with Weeks. If Gonzo was still around I could see them sitting him for some games or something but now with him gone they need someone like Weeks to help the younger AAA kids along. It's so weird watching him because every once in a while he shows how he usually is with good hits, walks, etc. but then he goes back to striking out in horrible ways.

Wickey has a very needy personality . He needs Fielder , Sveum , Randolph , et. al. but he is nearing his 30's and has a contract commitment thru 2014 so he needs to figure things out but he won't..stick a fork in him .

glad to get your expert opinion. We should all give up on an all-star second basemen because of a few bad months.

I guess we should just trade him for "draft picks" right?

Draft picks and a bag of used balls sounds about right.

Excellent idea, gotta make sure it's a bad team we trade him to though, we need more ping pong balls for the draft lottery right?

wrong sport

lol

You guys are laughing about trading Weeks but maybe thats what he needs and what the team needs. Even if he picks it up a little AND the pitching staff plays to their potential AND other players on the team start to play better, then we still probably will not make the playoffs.

Stats on Weeks to this point:

BB%: 14.5% close to a career high
K%: 29.5% one of the worst in the league. This is Mark Reynolds territory.
avg: .159 remember how everyone was talking about Dunns bad season last year around this point? Weeks is so far WORSE than Dunn was in avg
WAR: -0.6. The most damning of them all. we could take an average minor league second baseman and put him in there for Weeks and he would be an improvement.

I've never been a Weeks fan myself. He has always been overrated. He is a bad defender (only 2 middle infielders have been worse in the past 2 years going by plays they "should" have made) he is injury prone because of both his throwing motion and his overly violent swing. For a guy who wanted to bat leadoff, he strikes out too much, barely has league average OBP, and doesnt run well.

This year though shows exactly why he has been probably the most overhyped player on the team. He's not good. he's actually about average at best with slightly more power

With the Brewers' injury situation right now, I'll take average with slightly more power.

He's Bill Hall.

>I've never been a Weeks fan myself. He has always been overrated. He is a bad defender (only 2 middle infielders have been worse in the past 2 years going by plays they "should" have made) he is injury prone because of both his throwing motion and his overly violent swing. For a guy who wanted to bat leadoff, he strikes out too much, barely has league average OBP, and doesnt run well.

This year though shows exactly why he has been probably the most overhyped player on the team. He's not good. he's actually about average at best with slightly more power<

I agree with every point you've made ; this is why I renamed him to Wickey Reeks years ago when he was just starting out . There has always been a big gap between performance and expectations except for that one season .

What you guys are ignoring is that nobody would want to pay Weeks after trading for him. If he's Adam Dunn last year as so many suggest, then why would you invest in a sunken cost?

And speaking of, how is Adam Dunn doing this year? 2nd in the majors in homeruns? .919 OPS and anchoring his team to keep them in contention? I'm sure the White Sox are kicking themselves for not trading him and taking a loss last year.

One bad year doesn't make a bad career. The past three years Weeks has shown to be an above average player when healthy, he could come back rolling next season. The Brewers knew what risk they were taking, and they're going to ride it out.

I don't agree with trading him.

But what the White Sox did do was shut down Dunn. And they were out of it when they did.

Weeks lost season will be a team loss that will be mostly on his shoulders.

And to think about all the crying about Betancourt last year...