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    • I Thought I Was Reactionary and Impulsive
  • 4/9/12
  • standfan
Ha ha, if it comes true I think I'll buy a lotto ticket!
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  • 4/9/12
  • Halo_Dan
That was the dilemma I referred too before you posted.
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  • 4/9/12
  • peskyangel

First off, after 3 games it's way to early to assess the Angel offense.

Why is the emphasis on the offense? Both Haren and Santana gave up 5 runs in a little over 5 innings. If people are going to give them a pass, then maybe we should wait before worrying about the offense.

The Yankees and the Red Sox are both 0-3. Philly lost 2 of 3 to the Pirates.

Take a deep breath and relax.

I also agree with those that posted KC is a much better team than they have gotten credit for.

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  • 4/9/12
  • exileindc

>>Here is what they should be doing....1. Erick Aybar (S) SS<<

Can anyone explain to me why nearly everyone on this board insists on having one of our worst OBP guys at the top of the order?

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  • 4/9/12
  • Halo_Dan

Mike is trying hard to see if this team has any weakness 1-9. (no offense by my sarcasm intended) :)

This offense should not sputter long I hope. Aybar will do better.

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  • 4/9/12
  • lightitupbaby

Not worried about the offense. But I am worried about a few pieces that make the overall team weaker.

What we're talking about are better options. There is a better option to Trumbo playing 3rd. There is a better option than Wells playing everyday. There is a better option to Abreu being in the line up at all.

There are no other options to Haren and Santana.

All that's being discussed are better options.

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  • 4/9/12
  • Angel_Graffiti

I wouldn't mind Callaspo leading off, but who else?

The number two spot is incredibly important, and Kendrick there is fine.

You can't have Morales or Hunter or Wells or Trumbo or Ianetta lead off. Let Ianetta hit in this park and in this league before moving him to the position.

PB is just as bad as Aybar.

By default it's Aybar.

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  • 4/9/12
  • cbrett1984

Albert has always batted 3rd and I would not mess with him. I mean trumbo is batting .429 right now and his errors have been bad but I think more nerves than anything else. He will never be great at 3rd, but I think the callaspo homers need to stop talking.

You ( not you in particular) want to say the games trumbo has played is enough to show he can't play 3rd then I say callaspo .000 batting average is enough to show he is horrible.

Trumbo will be fine at third I think the first home stand really messed with them, because of the pressure. I am not saying trumbo is great....but his bat is undeniable, and I feel it is way too early to even be worried.

AG if this team was doing great during spring then how is hatcher a bad hitting coach? You can't have it both ways this team can hit and produce and they will. They have been pushing too hard to impress the home fans, let them get their legs and get in rhythm and this team will be fine. I see trumbo getting 70-100 starts at third if he calms down and play manageable defense like he played in spring.

I am looking at the batting averages and it doesn't look horrible we just need some timely hitting which will come and those royals are a legit team this year if their pitchers keep doing what they did to us.

**fixed some typos...writing on an iPad is tough!


Edited 4/9/12   by  cbrett1984
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  • 4/9/12
  • pokerbrat

The Angels have two holes in the batting order.

1) Lead off hitter
2) Cleanup hitter vs left handing starting pitching

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  • 4/9/12
  • pokerbrat

<You ( not you in particular) want to say the games trumbo has played is enough to show he can't play 3rd then I say callaspo .000 batting average is enough to show he is horrible.

Trumbo will be fine at third I think the first home stand really messed with the, because of the pressure. I am not saying trumbo is great....but his bat is undeniable, and I feel it is way too early to even be worried.>

Trumbo was also brutal @3B during the Dodgers series.. He's a much better fit in a platoon role @DH(vs lefty's) and LF

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  • 4/9/12
  • exileindc

>>I wouldn't mind Callaspo leading off, but who else?<<

If Callaspo's in the lineup, he should be leading off.

>> Let Ianetta hit in this park and in this league before moving him to the position.<<

Even outside of Coors, Ianetta knew how to work the count and control the strike zone. A career .340 OBP is not too shabby considering the .208 BA. I'd trust him to maintain his discipline while taking a chance that he bumps his average up to somewhere in the .230-.240 range and boost his OBP up closer to a .360.

>>PB is just as bad as Aybar.<<

If Callaspo's not in the lineup and we're bent on keeping Ianetta back until he shows what he can do under the marine layer, then I'd still rather have Bourjos than Aybar. Aybar's by nature a hacker - he always was and always will be.

Bourjos isn't, at least to the same extent. He swings at a lower percentage of balls out of the zone than Aybar. He problem is that he's not as good as making contact. I have a lot more faith that Bourjos will improve either his discipline or his contact skills than I do that Aybar will finally learn that a strike zone exists.

There's only upside to putting Bourjos at the top over Aybar with almost no downside.

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  • 4/9/12
  • BigSchtick
Plenty of bats for Trumbo at DH,1B & LF/RF
Please end the third base "experiment", 3B.. IS,
repeat IS a difficult position to play..
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  • 4/9/12
  • pokerbrat
That's the way I see it
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  • 4/9/12
  • peskyangel

"All that's being discussed are better options."

All I'm saying is that it's too early.

As far as Trumbo at 3B, I still feel that his fielding is a problem. It's not just the 3 errors in just 6 chances to start the season but the 4 errors in 24 chances during Spring training. Though the errors haven't all led directly to runs, they do make pitchers throw more pitches to get out of innings. This will take a toll over the course of a season.

Yes. it's still early but I'm not in favor of on the job training in the regular season.

As far as Wells and Abreu, these things will work themselves out.

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  • 4/9/12
  • therealist1
And yet most asked for a power hitting 3b, and was willing to surface defense for it.
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  • 4/9/12
  • jaybas

It is rediculous but you also notice it appears to be mostly new fans....bandwagon riders are bad....... ----------

SAYS THE GUY WITH 54 TOTAL POSTS! LOL

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  • 4/9/12
  • BigSchtick

<Power hitting 3B> Yup..THAT's the prototype..
THAT's the mold..Unfortunately very few can fit
THAT description...AND....be "acceptable" in
the fielding department as well..

Thus the move from 3B to LF...or 1B for the
Brauns, Cabreras, and others..who all fit the
hitter prototype...but not the fielding type.

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  • 4/9/12
  • cbrett1984
Might have that few posts but you will see my posts go back several years. I just don't post on here often only when stupidity seems to take over.....which it has. But thanks.
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  • 4/9/12
  • Angel_Graffiti
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AG if this team was doing great during spring then how is hatcher a bad hitting coach?
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You pay attention to spring training.... I don't.
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  • 4/9/12
  • Angel_Graffiti

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Even outside of Coors, Ianetta knew how to work the count and control the strike zone. A career .340 OBP is not too shabby considering the .208 BA. I'd trust him to maintain his discipline while taking a chance that he bumps his average up to somewhere in the .230-.240 range and boost his OBP up closer to a .360.
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And how much of that was batting in front of a pitcher?

I'm not sold on Ianetta.

Bourjos doesn't hack? Are we watching the same player?

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