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    • PT _ Religion: more good than bad? or vice versa?
  • 5/3/12
  • cedi

>>" God could come down right now and say "hi everyone, christianity is real and all the other religions are fake". But he doesn't do that. "
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What would be the point of faith then? "Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet still believe."<<

God already did this once...............there is no reason to believe the end result would be any different this time around.

1 Pet. 3:15

“always be prepared to give to every man an answer”

Matthew 7:6

"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

Finding the line between these two is difficult....................but that is up to you.

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  • 5/3/12
  • ortiz34fan
You are now no longer allowed to complain about disrespect.
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  • 5/3/12
  • astatecard
It has absolutely nothing to do with anything that Buddha lived 500 years before Jesus. Just because one thing happened before the other doesn't make the latter wrong. And I have a difficult time thinking I have to spell everything that is said out to you. I think you know what I am referring to when I say the rest are pretenders. If not, I am giving you entirely too much credit.
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" Jesus copied from Buddha's playbook"
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Again, Jesus arose from the dead. Buddha is still in the ground. Copy? Not hardly.
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Buddha=fake
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  • 5/3/12
  • astatecard
Think what you want, but you are wrong.
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Isaiah states where He was going to be born, how he would die, his ministry, and that book is not the only one. Look in Jeremiah, Daniel, nearly all of the minor prophets. Not to mention that there were pictures of Christ's coming throughout the Old Testament.
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  • 5/3/12
  • ortiz34fan
I've noticed some people adapt to being dumb by learning to talk like a smart person.
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  • 5/3/12
  • karprin

No he doesn't. Provide the verse. What pictures? There are over 700 unfufilled prophesies in the Bible.

Matthew claims that Jesus' birth in Bethlehem fulfils the prophecy in Micah 5:2. But this is unlikely for two reasons.

"Bethlehem Ephratah" in Micah 5:2 refers not to a town, but to a clan: the clan of Bethlehem, who was the son of Caleb's second wife, Ephrathah (1 Chr.2:18, 2:50-52, 4:4).

The prophecy (if that is what it is) does not refer to the Messiah, but rather to a military leader, as can be seen from Micah 5:6. This leader is supposed to defeat the Assyrians, which, of course, Jesus never did.

It should also be noted that Matthew altered the text of Micah 5:2 by saying: "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda" rather than "Bethlehem Ephratah" as is said in Micah 5:2. He did this, intentionally no doubt, to make the verse appear to refer to the town of Bethlehem rather than the family clan. 2:5-6

It is interesting that the so called prophesies written in the NT are either misquotes of an OT verse or not even there at all. In one Jesus says Mosses talked about him....its a shame he didn't provide the chapter and verse because no one can find it.

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  • 5/3/12
  • karprin
How is buddha fake? He never claimed to be a god.
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  • astatecard
Because it is not faith when you have all the answers. There are things that are not for us to know yet. That's how I look at it. Help me understand what you guys are missing. God's existence is crystal clear to me. There was a time when I was right there with you all even though I grew up in church. I questioned the heck out of it. God revealed himself to me, and I realize that I don't draw a breath without His say so. He knew when I would draw my first and when I will draw my last.
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  • astatecard
You are right.
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  • astatecard
"What pictures?'
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I have already answered this question.
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  • 5/3/12
  • ortiz34fan
"Because it is not faith when you have all the answers."

I asked why would God want us to operate on faith instead of reason. How does "having all the answers" have anything to do with that question?

"Help me understand what you guys are missing. God's existence is crystal clear to me."

If we were missing something, we wouldn't know what it is, would we? If there were something that proves God's existence, then you - the guy who knows God exists - would know about it, not us.

"There was a time when I was right there with you all even though I grew up in church. I questioned the heck out of it. God revealed himself to me..."

That might be interesting. How did God reveal himself to you?

"...and I realize that I don't draw a breath without His say so."

Seems like an incompetent God, then.
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  • 5/3/12
  • cedi
Have I ever?
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  • ortiz34fan
I have no idea.
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  • 5/3/12
  • karprin
No you didn't. I am not aware of anyone ever talking about pictures of Jesus in the OT. Provide the scripture. I don't believe its there.
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  • 5/3/12
  • enfoe
"No I'd still be correct. Isaiah was misquoted."

lol. How could you possibly even pretend to think you know something like that?
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  • 5/3/12
  • enfoe
"He gives plenty of information. It's a matter of listening."

Ok, but he seems to have sent 1 billion muslims entirely different information.
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  • 5/3/12
  • enfoe
"What would be the point of faith then? "Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet still believe.""

So you think god gave us critical thinking skills, but will punish us eternally for using them?

"I wouldn't call someone that has actually spoken with God and written about it 3rd hand."

Well we don't have an original print of the bible, the oldest texts we have were written several generations after the original authors were long dead. Calling it 3rd hand information is being generous on my part.

"God wants to help. People just have to listen and know when He is speaking."

If you hear god speaking to you I suggest medication. That is called schizophrenia.

"Then you will be the one that pays for the things you've done wrong by going to <hell rather than accepting the payment that has already been made for you."

Can I get that payment in cash instead?

Sorry, but god has some serious self image issues if he requires that we worship him or be punished for eternity.

And yes, all take an eternity in <hell over spending an eternity with a bunch of people who were selected based on their lack of willingness to think logically.

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  • 5/3/12
  • enfoe

""What would be the point of faith then?"

I think you're just rephrasing his point. God might refuse to reveal himself because faith is awesome, but what IS so great about faith? Why wouldn't God want people to operate on reason instead?"

Thx Ortiz. Skipped that in my post.

What is so great about blind faith? Faith seems to be a nicely phrased way of saying "lack of curiosity". What's so great about that?

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  • 5/3/12
  • enfoe

""Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

Finding the line between these two is difficult....................but that is up to you."

Not sure if I'm interpreting this correctly, but is that suggesting that people who have a curiosity about the true origins of life are swine/dogs?

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  • 5/3/12
  • enfoe
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" Jesus copied from Buddha's playbook"
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Again, Jesus arose from the dead. Buddha is still in the ground. Copy? Not hardly."

Buddha predates jesus, sorry.

"Buddha=fake"

No, Buddha was not fake. He was a real guy. He didn't claim to have superpowers or anything, he was just a person.
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