How far away are we from seriously contending?
--> When the Wilponzis are out of the picture.
Competitive? probably this year.
--> Are you for real?
Competitive to me is having a chance to win games as opposed to championship caliber which is expected to compete and have a chance to either win the division or the wc.
Competitive to me = finishing above 500 which won't mean much to the Mets.
I think we are a near 500 team, probably a little better as we are right now...add a power hitting outfielder or a leadoff outfielder and we are a contender.
Who;s to say, that outfielder may be someone we currently have who rounds into form...if we are in good shape at the trade deadline e could be buyers and syndegaard could bring us back a impact player.
We are a near .500 team....define near. Right now, we are a 90 loss team. That's a 9 game swing. I guess you could call that near .500. However, I don't think that's what you meant. The truth is that we were a bad team in 2012, that got worse. If we sign Borne, which I doubt, it's just SA and the Wilpons blowing smoke trying to look like they care, we'd be close to a .500 team. Right now, we are a 90 loss team, and will continue to be for years to come. We have around 14 holes on this team...and unless every prospect pans out (laughable) we have no chance. Here are our holes.
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Why do I list the Starting rotation as having 3 holes? Because Santana's arm is hanging by a thread, Gee had/has a serious medical contition and nobody knows if he can still pitch. Nobody knows what Harvey is yet. That leaves Niese, who's a good pitcher, but no #1, and Marcum who's a stopgap. The fact that he was signed shows how little confidence the organization has in Mejia, Familia, or that Santana won't break down in July.
Why the entire BP? Well, it was awful. Francisco needs to bounce back. I think he will, but until he does it's a hole. Parnell has decent numbers, he pitches lights out in games we're winning or losing by 4 or 5 runs. In close games he stinks. Not a good traiT for a BP guy. A new bunch of guys off the scrap heap to replace last years group of guys off the scrap heap, doesn't plug those holes.
Buyers at the trade deadline? God, I would love that, but the Wilpons still own the team. It's more likely we'll be selling a Wright, or Niese. They don't fit in with the team. They're actually good players.
1 - First and formost I am a fan. I follow the team, and root for them to win, as most of us do, because I have done so since I was 4 or 5. This by no means means that they owe me anything. It is my choice to put my emotions onto their success. I still do it anyway, along with every other team I follow.
2 - I live in Md. so I dont buy any tickets... well I do go to watch them in DC a few times a year.
Your Spindy quote illuminates the very essence of Spinspeak:
"We're getting to the point..." (meaningless vague statement - how long will it take?)
"it wouldn't take more than a couple moves to change the whole perception..." (still TALKING about potential moves that do not get made - and notice he is not even saying what the goal of the un-made moves is - just another vague meaningless statement)
"We're at the point where we can make significant improvement..." (again speaking about beind at a point to do something, not doing it, or even specifying a timeframe)
"we've been looking at ways that we can actually do that." (it is almost impossible to read or hear this spinster say that without laughing, at this point, we have heard it so many time)
He certainly has earned the name Spindy Spinderson. Abe Lincoln rolls over in his grave every time he speaks. Perhaps that is his only charge though, a gift from Bud to his pal Fred (sigh) to spin things and hope enough fans are fooled as payroll drops more and more.
I find the fact that anyone thinks they deserve something they don't to be a problem. Maybe it is semantics, but to say you (not necessarily you in particular) "deserve" it or are "entitled" to it, really falls short of what that truly means.
What have any of us done to "deserve" more? Buy tickets? Buy merchandise? What? What makes us then deserve more than the other teams' fans that do the same? What I see is, generally the posters that think they "deserve" more, are the ones that are not happy with anything the team does. Also, what do any of them plan to do to get more out of what they "deserve"? It seems they want someone else to do something for them, which is not uncommon with those that feel entitled for the wrong reasons.
Lastly, what I do not understand is, if these fans are never happy with the team and how it is run, why be a fan? The ownership is not changing. As much as we want them to sell, the wilpons are not selling. People complain about Sandy, he doesnt do enough, or anything. While many of the same complainers hated Omar because he spent way too much money and on not the right guys. Or he got too many latinos and did not care about the American Draft. Before him, Duquette made terrible trades, and before him Phillips couldnt get a FA. Now all of that may be true, but if all you get out of this is negative <feedback, whats in it for you?
So be the fan you want to be (although many of these fans take umbrage to those that do enjoy the team, and look forward to possible better years), and maybe it is just word choice im arguing, I'm just saying sports are entertainment. Entertainment is for enjoyment. Lets enjoy the team and the sport.