"we'll be a playoff team in a couple seasons once all the kids filter up"

You say this like its a guranteed thing.
So basically we could just sit around and wait until the Lansing 3 come up and boom = playoffs? How do you know any one of the 3 will be any good? And once they even make the debuts (2-3 years) you're still going to be looking at a season or 2 before they become potential forces. These 3 guys are really the only ones we have in the system that are going to majorily sway the tide in how good this team could be unless d'Arnaud becomes the second coming of Posey.

I can't say any specific one will be as advertised at all.

However, due to the quantity + odds of reaching potential means that it's pretty much guaranteed that we'll have some good players.

Look at this list of our outfielder prospects. All of them have the potential to be MLB regulars or better. Lets say only 1 in 5 actually reaches their potential.

Dwight Smith, Anthony Gose, Jake Marisnick, Jacob Anderson, DJ Davis, Anthony Alford.

While it's unlikely that all of them become regulars or better, one of them at least should. With a long term player already there (Rasmus) that means we only need a second guy to hit his potential, or conversely find another guy who is decent.

Similarly with the pitchers. We have about 15 good pitching prospects, so if you do that 1 in 5 thing, that's three rotation spots filled and that's not counting Romero, Morrow, and Alvarez.

That's why I'm not worried.

We have 3 top prospects at the most premium positions (C, SS, CF) coming up in d'Arnaud, Hech, and Gose. A significant part of our team has been injured (Morrow, Bautista, Hutchison, Drabek, Perez, Santos, McGowan). Romero and Escobar are having down years, while Lawrie is primed to improve as he matures. It's obvious that we have the core of a very talented team that AA has built and retained.

It's not just about the Leafs.The NHL has a salary cap,so they can't really spend all that much.But,they have no cap in baseball,and just won't spend the money to bring anybody in.If they hadn't got lucky that Bautista transformed from a bench player to a superstar,he'd still be here but for next to nothing because they're cheap.

Same thing with EE.The Jays got lucky he pulled himself off the scrap heap,otherwise he'd still be part of this line-up but on the cheap.They keep hoping Lind will miraculously turn into a superstar again,so they won't dump him.If it works,he's cheap.If not,they weren't planning on competing anyway.

Always on the cheap.Same with the rotation.Why pay anybody?Just pitch the young guys and hope like hel* they get lucky.Year after year,same old plan.Hope for a miracle and go cheap doing it.

He has been to busy this year to give a flying you know what because he has been at home making a baby. Now we know why he has made such poor decisions this year.

The excuse next year will be that he has had no sleep because he has been tending to the baby.

after the Happ trade a lot of people here seem to hate him.

Because low level prospects are hard to come up with...

+1

While the Jays record has been lateral these three years, you would have to be an idiot to think this team is in a worse place then it was before.

This season has had a ton of bad luck infused into it, and while it is no excuse, it's also not a reason to fire a GM.

I give him one more year and then the clock starts ticking.

Terrible thread. Far from doing a bad job, he's overall done a GOOD job. Some pluses and minuses but that will happen with every GM.

Alex's only major mistake since taking over as GM is the hiring of John Farrell. That guy eternally looks clueless.

Tell me what you expect when your team is like this:

http://i.imgur.com/BoudX.png

bla bla bla.

You're missing a couple important more moves that need to be done by AA, and they are MANAGEMENT!

They should have named this thread "The reunion of the troglodytes" amirite spanky?!

We'll becuase he just pulled off an amazing trade stealing lincoln from the pirates for the overrated snider and getting delabar for thames I'll give him a pass for now

Alex should have been fired a long time ago in my opinion.

It was reckless and totally unprofessional for the organization to hand him the position of General Manager considering he was the right hand man for JP. He sat idly while the organization made some of the worst moves in the franchise's history, signing backloaded contracts and extensions like a drunken sailor.

I personally thought the Jays should have hired an interim GM for a couple of seasons to "groom" AA, and work him slowly into the hot seat. Instead the media went on the offensive, heaping praise on him and declaring that losing was finally over in Toronto. AA was thrown into the fire much too early, a mistake that seems to happen on every level in TO.

It has been painful to watch this team lately. They are on the verge of complete collapse, and the cupboard is bare for next season. AA should be fired immediately, nohing he has done has made the Jays a better club, or put us anywhere closer to playoff contention.

"nohing he has done has made the Jays a better club,"

Nice one Jarvis.

We think AA has done a great job from the farm up. So far its speculation and "ratings". He hasn't had time to fully access impact of his farm work. There are few players in our line up that have come through our farm under him that looks ready yet to make a contribution to winning. Under JP we had terrible farm success.

Lawrie was a trade and spent a little time in Jays system

Lind came through system but future is uncertain with Jays

RR has been a serious concern this season

Alvarez could be the real deal if he learns a better breaking ball.

Hutch hurt and see ya in 2014 maybe.

JP - meh. Poor D...horrible OBP. Has pop

TS - gone

Drabek from Phillies system. AA pitcher of the yr but so far a bust in MLB.

Hech-Gose-Sierra all works in progress. D'arnaud plays a tough postion and hurt again so we'll see.

Shall we bump the Morrow for League thread? Gose for Wallace?

Fire AA, agreed.

AA just had another kid so I suppose he thinks he'll be secure in his job. He may have to think again