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    • Chase Headley on the block?
  • 6/27/12
  • charlesangels

No, that's Chase HeadlEy, not Headly! Headly is Headly Lamar. Not to be confused with Heady Lamar, of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5KyLzFdgI

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  • 6/27/12
  • EDinTustin

<<<Also, the parks in the AL West are harder to hit in than parks in the NL West. >>>

Petco is a notorious pitcher's park. No way that any AL West park is harder to hit in than Petco. Dodger Stadium certainly is not a hitter's park either.

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  • 6/27/12
  • charlesangels
Neither is the ballpark in San Francisco.
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  • 6/27/12
  • Angel_Graffiti

Did people miss that we were talking about road splits?

Petco is his home park. Anaheim is Callaspo's home park.

Should I explain that further?

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  • 6/27/12
  • saylo

Headley is under team control for a couple more years.

Ask yourself the question: "Does that mean Angels keep Callaspo all that time?"

Caleb Cowart is in High-A ball and he is the lone 3B prospect yet there is no guarantee against injury or even being over his head as he goes to AA.

Callaspo is about 6" shorter than Headley...laugh all you want but this is an important stat for getting to balls around 3B, Callaspo misses many grounders by just a few inches...with Headley at 3B those balls would be ROUTINE PLAYS.

Headley is a better glove than Callaspo all around and a better hitter. A HUGE improvement.

To go with Callaspo for this season and into the future is bad judgment especially with a payroll like this. Counterproductive.

Short guys DO NOT RULE at the corner infield positions...a fact of life.

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  • 6/27/12
  • charlesangels
Doesn't seem to be a problem right now. Looks like Callaspo/Izturis platoon is working. Keeps Izturis from getting injured. Would love to have Headley at thirdbase, but not necessary, and wouldn't trade the farm to get him.
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  • 6/27/12
  • saylo

Doesn't seem to be a problem because we are not seeing Headley's coverage at 3B. When Callaspo cannot reach a ball because his reach is 8-10 inches shorter those balls are called hits.

Headley would make plays that is IMPOSSIBLE for Callaspo to even come close. Callaspo has to dive at balls to his left or right..Headley would make those plays standing up and routine.

Headley would hit 20+ HRs once he is settled in with Angels.

To think there are no options to Callaspo means he stays here at 3B for at least THREE MORE YEARS in best case scenario.

Callaspo IS NOT A REAL 3Bman...he never can be...it's the way things are in life and baseball. Corner infielders are a LIABILITY at 5' 8"....that's not just an opinion...it's FACT.

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  • 6/27/12
  • saylo

For a stat-oriented fan you show how locked-in you are in numbers alone.

There is no stat for balls a player cannot reach only stats for balls he touches or gloves. Callaspo cannot get to a lot of balls and has to stretch into dives...this should be a stat but it isn't. That is why stats alone are incomplete.

Headley is a tier better than Callaspo...no comparison.

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  • 6/27/12
  • Angel_Graffiti

There are defensive metrics. As far as too short? I will never be on the same page with you regarding the size of a player.

The taller you are, the slower you move and the longer it takes to throw the ball. Have you ever thought of that?


Edited 6/27/12   by  Angel_Graffiti
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  • 6/27/12
  • saylo

I've thought of a lot more facets than you, for sure.

"The taller you are the slower one moves"....LOL....ever watch Muhammed Ali?

Headley is way, way better than Callaspo..a world apart.,

By your reasoning we should build an entire team of short guys...they are quicker. Short is NO GUARANTEE of quickness...there are even more slow short guys than slow taller guys.

Your argument does not hold water...leaky.

Ludicrous.

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  • 6/27/12
  • sgmusik
If that is your stance, why wouldn't teams put taller players at SS?
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  • 6/27/12
  • sgmusik
BTW, you were saying the same thing about Mark Reynolds a year or so ago, he was so much better than Callaspo at 3rd. How'd that work out?
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  • 6/27/12
  • angelfanpdx

".....Not to be confused with Heady Lamar..."

Tsk! Tsk!

Heady..........WRONG!!!!!!!!! (my Buddy Bizarre impression.....)
Lamar..........WRONG!!!!!!!!! (see above....)

Hedy Lamarr!

: )

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  • 6/27/12
  • Angel_Graffiti

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Headley is way, way better than Callaspo..a world apart.,
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He could be, but his height has nothing to do with it.

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"The taller you are the slower one moves"....LOL....ever watch Muhammed Ali?
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And you think Ali was anywhere near as quick as Sugar Ray Leonard? Leonard was 5'9''.

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  • 6/27/12
  • exileindc

>>There is no stat for balls a player cannot reach only stats for balls he touches or gloves.<<

Wrong. As usual.

UZR, for instance, uses ball location in its evaluation. In fact, that's the whole point of it. If a player is getting to balls that another player isn't, then it shows up in the data.

And it doesn't show up in Headley vs Callaspo.

Total Zone uses hit type in its calculations and again, doesn't show any sort of consistent difference in the defensive abilities of the two either.

>>Headley is a tier better than Callaspo...no comparison.<<

Probably not.

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  • 6/27/12
  • Angel_Graffiti
Saylo's two favorite stats are height and age. How often would you expect him to be right?
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  • 6/27/12
  • RMunkee

Since I really don't know, and don't feel like looking it up, does UZR account for line drives that will go over or beyond Callaspo's ( Or Izturis'.) reach, but be easily snagged by a taller player ( Headley, or Trumbo.) with a presumably longer "wingspan"? ( Or is there such a stat?)

In almost any case I can think of, an athletic taller man - as opposed to a bigger, but lumbering ox - is going to get to balls, both on the ground, but ESPECIALLY in the air, that a shorter player, will not.

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  • 6/27/12
  • saylo

I watch a lot of baseball and my nose is not buried in flawed stats.

By your question you are an advocate of shorter players just like your co-advocate on this thread.

Short guy are a liability at the corners is a reality not a bias against short players....it is principally the CORNER infield.

Stats do not show how many grounders and line drives that should have been gloved but were not because of lack of reach.

What is it about all this that you cannot/will not comprehend?

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  • 6/27/12
  • Angel_Graffiti

Short guys are at a disadvantage at first base because they make a smaller target. Bill James spent a great deal of time looking at putouts for third basemen and fund nothing.

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  • 6/27/12
  • saylo


short guys at 3B lack leverage even in their throwing...they have to exert more than tall guys generally and therefore make throws that can have too much effort resulting in errors. We've seen Callaspo throw into the dugout enough times to realize that...except you, of course.

Cannot believe you still paying that losing hand...love to play you at a poker table...bring lots of money.

Callaspo has very little range...how is it you cannot see that?

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