If he is only hitting 15 Hrs and 30 doubles, he should not be batting in a position toget 100 RBIs, unless our offense is AL worthy.
He needs to hit closer to 20 and 45 if you want him to bat cleanup.
Walker should not be batting cleanup either. If he did get to 100, I imagine he also hits closer to 45 doubles and at least 15 Hrs. If Hague is not going to hit more than 15 HRs he needs much more than 30 doubles, or he is hitting 2nd or 8th...and not getting 100 RBIs.
In 1991, Jay Bell hit 16 HRs and 32 doubles. He had 67 RBIs. Bell actually averaged 15 HRs and 31 doubles for his career (162 game average). Hague does not play SS.
21 brought up Mark Grace elsewhere. Grace averaged 37 2Bs, and 83 RBIs. Sean Casey also averaged 37 doubles, 15 HRs and 85 RBIs.
Sid Bream is the type of 1B you are describing (also Doug M, John Mabry, Travis Lee). But he did hit 32 HRs at 22 in the minors one year. These guys will not get 100 RBIs.
Hague did not change his swing. Where did you hear that from?? He might be looking to drive more balls because if he doesn't, he won't ever be in the majors. That's not changing a swing that's changing his approach a bit.
Why do you keep coming back to a 55 at bat spring sample? You guys are lunatics.
-----Why do you keep coming back to a 55 at bat spring sample? You guys are lunatics.-----
Why does everyone do that on here? What do you mean "you guys?" There is only one lunatic making the argument. Why generalize? Makes you look like an idiot and it's not like you need more of that.
"Explain Walker then. Did he hit 20 homers? I believe he was approaching 100 RBIs before slumping."
Walker slugged .408 last year. That should explain enough the FACT that RBIs are very poor indicators of hitting performance and very good indicators of what guys are doing in front of you. Walker had Tabata at a .350 OBP, Cutch, and a hot Alex Presley in front of him last year.
His poor performance but relatively high RBI totals don't go to show much except that people's obsession with RBI's is ret*rded. And that an average hitting major league SHORTSTOP put into that position could put up similar numbers.
The evidence is right there. .408 Slugging. Give me a break. That's just a power famine for anyone in an RBI spot.
You bring a REAL cleanup hitter in here... heck even a half-@ssed one like Adam Laroche was 3 seasons ago and you've got 110 + Rbis with that kind of table setting and speed in front of him.
.480 -. 500 slugging nets you 110+ RBIs there. I'd bet you a hundred bucks
""Hague did not change his swing. Where did you hear that from??""
He lowered his hands a quarter of an inch? I stand corrected, I guess. lol
(His swing looks the exact same as it always did and it should because he's a good hitter)
It's always the same thing with these guys. "Changed swing" or "showed up in best shape of his life" etc.. anything to get the nieve going.
"Not sure where I stand on Hague - but I agree with the premise that Gamecokfn is an idiot."
Haha. Well, it's good to stand up for something, Art.
I'm not worried about a lack of power... I'm worried about a lack of bananas. If that girl runs out of bananas, I'm going to blame some of the people on this board.
"Why does everyone do that on here? What do you mean "you guys?" There is only one lunatic making the argument. Why generalize? Makes you look like an idiot and it's not like you need more of that."
There is way more than beimel who takes spring performance seriously. Now go play in a street.
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LOL.Wow. That's all? Go play in a street? You are slippin'.
""Didn't change his swing. Changed his set-up . Big difference. :)""
Take it up with Sanserino, he wrote the article. I don't disagree with you, but Sanserino's the one who said Hague "tweaked" his swing. I can buy that the article could have been better-written, from a pure baseball perrspective. But, the point is, when people say Hague made a change to try to generate more power, they're getting it from that PPG article, plus this one:
Plus other articles.
I think that due to it being reported that Hague made adjustments, both physically and mentally, to try to generate more power, is why they're trying to read more into Hague's ST HR barrage, than they would anyone else having a hot March. If Hague really can hit a few more over the fence, while not losing anything off his average, or his plate discipline, then the Pirates might have lucked into a 1B solution.
We already know Hague can put up a .360+ OBP. If he can also drive the ball enough to put up a high-.400 SLG, then you've got an .840 OPS guy at 1B. And only 8 teams had one of those in MLB, last year. And only 11 of them had one, in 2010.
"Go play in a street? You are slippin'."
I actually did laugh a little with that one. So childish and played out, yet so simply effective.
come at me bro. that's right, u skeered.