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  • 4/18/12
  • ceadallas

It's not a matter of whether the Rangers can afford Hamilton. They have the money. It's a matter of whether they want to spend it on Hamilton.

Yes, if he puts up big numbers this year, stays healthy and out of trouble, there will be teams out there willing to lay the big contract on him in Free Agency. In my opinion, the Rangers won't be willing to go as far as other teams will.

I suppose there is still a chance the Rangers and Hamilton could reach an agreement on a contract before the season is over but, I look for Josh to test Free Agency.

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  • 4/18/12
  • Dor12
They are talking.
I do not see him ever reaching free agency
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  • 4/18/12
  • ceadallas
I hope you're right.
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  • 4/18/12
  • ARANGERSFAN
I think Josh test FA,.....he "doesn't owe the Rangers anything".
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  • 4/18/12
  • stephen.kt
That comment was in reference to taking a pay cut to stay here in Texas, not regarding going to FA. But I think you're right...he's clearly playing like a player who's completely aware it's his contract-year, and after a few months, rumors will start popping up about what kind of offers he could get. He'll see those and the Rangers offer won't come close to it.
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  • 4/18/12
  • ceadallas

That's old news and was blown out of proportion. Fact is that if Josh puts up the numbers and stays healthy, some team out there will offer a Matt Kemp type contract +. If it gets to that, I just don't think it will be the Rangers.

We shall see. In the mean time, the Rangers have a beast on their hands and we're all very happy about it. I say we all enjoy the ride this year.

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  • 4/18/12
  • werenoangels4

"he's clearly playing like a player who's completely aware it's his contract-year, and after a few months, rumors will start popping up about what kind of offers he could get. He'll see those and the Rangers offer won't come close to it. "

I absolutely agree, but am hopig that dor is right in that the Rangers get him signed during the season.


Edited 4/18/12   by  werenoangels4
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  • 4/18/12
  • ARANGERSFAN
But, then again, he may come to the conclusion that he owes the Rangers everything and will accept a contract that keeps him on a WS contender for years to come.
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  • 4/18/12
  • jpops757
We know that most have contracts have incentives.Can the team construct a contract so 6yr 25M contract is reduced for lack of production or even shorten the length. We always here about the club option of buying out of a year or two of a contract. What is the rate ????50% or less????
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  • 4/18/12
  • stephen.kt

No, but sort of yes.

They'll never make a contract $25M with penalties if they don't perform up to a certain number.

But, they would do a contract worth like $20M/year, with added bonuses if certain criteria are met.

I really, really hope they don't do a 6-year deal.

Buyouts are determined in contract negotiations. For example, Kinsler has a $5M buyout of his last season. There is not a set rate.

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  • 4/18/12
  • bleepedfornoreason
i hope you're right. all FA's are gambles. maybe Josh a little more so than some others, but this guy can play. get the home discount, sign him now!!!
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  • 4/18/12
  • ARANGERSFAN
Incentive laden contracts are just around the corner...your not going to get $25 mil just because of your name...you're going to have to produce....
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  • 4/18/12
  • rockieranger
The Rangers need to offer Josh 5 years, 90 million. Take it or leave it. He probably will walk, but may have a change of heart. stRanger things have happened.
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  • 4/18/12
  • werenoangels4
I think that would be a fair and reasonable offer.
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  • 4/18/12
  • nobigwhoop

Here is a great quote from Chapter 19 in Josh’s book, which I certainly hope (a) was true when he wrote it, and (b) he remembers when he considers signing somewhere else (the important part is in CAPS at the end):

“But at some point during the press conference (after he first came to the Rangers), I looked to the back of the room, past the reporters in their seats and the television cameras on their tripods, to see three people sitting in folding chairs. In street clothes, there were three of my new teammates - second baseman Ian Kinsler, shortstop Michael Young, and third baseman Hank Blalock.

These were the three faces of the franchise, leaders on the field and in the clubhouse. At some point, the reporters noticed them there as well, and one of them asked me a series of questions.

“Josh, how many of these press conferences would you say you have done?”

“A lot.”

“Have you ever had teammates show up to support you?”

I was a little confused by the question. I said, “No,” kind of hesitantly, because that was the truth. With the Reds, I gave a press conference much like this one during spring training and I followed it by giving one at the beginning of every series on the road, to allow the local reporters to all ask their questions and get stories before the first game.

With the Reds, none of my teammates had attended any of those sessions, but I never thought anything of it. I never expected them to sit there and listen to me tell my story for the millionth time.

And in this case, it never occurred to me that Ian, Michael, and Hank were there to support me. I just assumed they were having their own press conferences after mine, so when I saw them back there I figured they were waiting for me to hurry up and get it over with.

ONCE I HEARD THE QUESTION AND UNDERSTOOD WHY THEY WERE THERE, I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I LOOKED AT THEM AND FELT TEARS WELLING UP. THIS WAS A TOUCHING MOMENT. I’D BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO BEING SOMEWHAT OF A LONER IN MY LIFE, SET APART BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT FORCED ME TO SET MYSELF APART. BUT THIS FELT LIKE TOGETHERNESS. THIS FELT LIKE A TEAM. THESE GUYS WERE INTERESTED IN HEARING MY STORY SO THEY COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT I’VE GONE THROUGH AND THE BATTLE I STILL FIGHT. MORE THAN ANYTHING, I WAS HUMBLED BY THEIR PRESENCE.”

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  • 4/18/12
  • stephen.kt

Great post, Whoop.

I'd say that you should print it out and hand that to Josh before a game, but I wouldn't want him to think were trying to scold him or anything. I agree, I hope he remembers that.

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  • 4/18/12
  • repsort
Why would somebody sign a deal that could be reduced when they could go out there and find a guaranteed contract?
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  • 4/18/12
  • jessica618
I am a Braves fan as well as a Rangers fan. If the Braves cannot sign Josh (which the owners are tight wads so I doubt that happens) I pray he stays with the Rangers. Ya'll just have a great nucleus of ballplayers on that team that will compete every year.

Edited 4/18/12   by  jessica618
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  • 4/18/12
  • repsort
Braves can't afford big contracts, they have one of the worst TV deals in history and will have trouble competing in the future unless they draft wisely.
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  • 4/18/12
  • werenoangels4
No Michale Young tonight. He has some mild back stiffness. They said it isn't serious and he could pinch hit if needed. Snyder playing 1B and Moreland the DH.
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