Indeed I did.
But, not Bobby.

"Haters gonna hate."

Yep, you've been hating on everything I say since late last season. I don't even post in your Goat of the game and player of the game threads any longer because you singled out my votes to make snarky comments about.

Why don't you comment on the zillions and zillions of times I defend players, coaches, etc. to the over-reactionary group around here?????????? The one person I think needs to go and I'm a "hater"....yeah, right.

Goodbye.

WOW,best for JJ and Braves,let him rest and work on mechanics, we need him for trade bait.

good post, I agree that this is the right move at this time

let JJ take a step back and not have to worry about proving anything, just work on his stuff. He never blew people away anyway, he just needs to work on his location and pitching smart.

...Im not an expert, but maybe they can tweak his delivery or something simple. You never know, something small can go a long way.

"Now the question is what effect will this have on his future as a Brave, I mean this will have a negative impact on arbitration for him right?"

He's making 5.5M this year and you don't go backwards in salary through arbitration, so he would make at least that next season if he was offered arbitration. Obviously, unless he turns it around in a hurry he'll be non-tendered......maybe he can rebuild his value enough that we can trade him.

A proper move - but have to admit, never thought it would happen.

What I was afraid of, was that the knee injury would effect his mechanics,and it looks like it has. Could cause permanent damage to knee and arm, ala Dizzy Dean. This is not a demotion but an aid to get better. If it was Wren's decision,kudos to him.

I'm surprised they handled it this way. Not that it is a bad way to handle it, just thought it would be a DL stint and extended ST. I guess they want him going right back into games at AAA. I don't know what that is going to serve though. He doens't need more game experience, he needs video and sessions with a good pitching coach to get back to form before pitching in any games.

JJ's problem is his mechanics. When he lands on that left leg he has a hitch and it pops his entire torso upwards. When the body is moving up and the arm is coming down it is causing a flat ball. I don't know why it's happening. I suspect it's the brace though. It would make sense because it may not be allowing the knee to flex like it should and has in the past. I don't think it is going to be something as easy as changing arm slot either.

This could very well be the end of Jurrjens Braves career. If he can't land on his leg with the brace and can't pitch without it then they may 60-day DL him to let it fully regain the necessary strength to pitch again. If that's the case then we just lost one of our best pitchers of the last 4 seasons because they won't offer arby and he will walk. I hope he doesn't leave with only 47 Braves wins under his belt.

Agreed with everything.

Definitely way too much to pay him considering all of our options at SP for next season. I'm sure he'll have a good attitude going down to AAA and maybe he can turn things around.

"Delgado stays for now."

Probably a good thing. Delgado had one bad inning. Jurrjens hasn't had one good one.

That is definitely a good way to look at it. And honestly, that bad inning from Delgado was followed up by some really solid ones.

I don't necessarily like Fredi as a manager, but I don't agree on this.

It is possible the decision had not yet been made and it is also possible that Fredi knew and said exactly what he should have to the press. I think it is presumptuous to assume Fredi had no clue or no say in the matter and is more a reflection of your opinion of him than the evidence in this situation.

hey come on now. he had a scoreless first inning against the mets last week. LOL!

I reserve the right for occasional hyperbole.

I guess the question is what counter move would you make.

I would call up Gearrin until next Tuesday when it is time to activate Huddy.

"He's making 5.5M this year and you don't go backwards in salary through arbitration, so he would make at least that next season if he was offered arbitration."

The Braves can offer no less than 80% of what he is making this season. There are a few scenarios that could warrant the Braves offering him 80% of what he is currently making.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.....I'll have to look up the CBA again. I did a report on it several years ago and don't recall running past that.

"I think it is presumptuous to assume Fredi had no clue or no say in the matter and is more a reflection of your opinion of him than the evidence in this situation."

Probably very true. I wanted to like Fredi but his treatment of Heyward last year and now Pastornicky this year has clouded my judgement on him.