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    • 2012 MLB Regular Season: The Other Games
  • 4/26/12
  • gamcockfn
At least the fireworks would distract people from the gunshots.
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  • 4/26/12
  • 21thebest
I'd bash Cuban but I'd rather he own the Pirates than Nutting. I don't know why you'd think bashing someone means you don't want them to own the Pirates instead of Nutting.
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  • 4/26/12
  • 21thebest
People only stalk except when they don't.
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  • 4/26/12
  • GolfingBucco

From what I understand the Marlins pretty much have strippers dancing around in the outfield stands in full view of everyone.(not nude but close enough) It might be a cultural thing, I don't know, but if the Pirates had Hooter's girls dancing around on top of the Clemente Wall, I know a bunch of people who would never let their family set foot in the ball park. It seems like they are trying to cater to a segment of the population in Miami by having a "festival" type of setting, but what they are missing IMO is festivals only happen once or twice a year in the Cuban/Latin community, not everyday, it is special occasions, 81 times a year isn't special. It would be like trying to cater to caucasian Christians by having Christmas everyday at the ballpark, how quick would that lose its interest?

That new ballpark in Miami seems like one giant distraction from the fact that there is a baseball game going on.

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  • 4/26/12
  • surgnbuck

They need more rotating fish HR wheels. Only have REAL marlins, and someone from the crowd gets to hook it, and try and reel it in. Have one of those fishing seats with the leather straps to hold you in. Land the marlin, win a gift certificate to Long John Silvers.

Maybe they need to do something to bring in the "Green/Eco/PETA" crowd. Like have a tank with actual dolphins caught in a tuna net and drowning. Or actual oil coated birds from the BP spill. Tug at the heart strings kind of stuff.

Then again, if I was a kid, I'd look at it in horror and say, "Momma, can we just go see the tiddy dancers GB was talking about?"

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  • 4/26/12
  • Mongoose

""Correction, I went to more Penguin games than you, Kovie and Mcho combined.""

Ohh, now we're discussing ancient history.

The Achaemenid Empire (Old Persian: Parsa, name of ruling dynasty: Haxamanišiya) (c. 550–330 BCE), sometimes known as First Persian Empire, was an empire in Southwest Asia, founded in the 6th century BCE by Cyrus the Great who overthrew the Median confederation. It expanded to eventually rule over significant portions of the ancient world which at around 500 BCE stretched from the Indus Valley in the east, to Thrace and Macedon on the northeastern border of Greece making it the biggest empire the world had yet seen. The Achaemenid Empire would eventually control Egypt as well. It was ruled by a series of monarchs who unified its disparate tribes and nationalities by constructing a complex network of roads.

Calling themselves the Parsa after their original Aryan tribal name Parsua, Persians settled in a land which they named Parsua, bounded on the west by the Tigris River and on the south by the Persian Gulf. This became their heartland for the duration of the Achaemenid Empire. It was from this region that eventually Cyrus the Great (Cyrus II of Persia) would advance to defeat the Median, the Lydian, and the Babylonian Empires, opening the way for subsequent conquests into Egypt and Asia minor.

At the height of its power after the conquest of Egypt, the empire encompassed approximately 8 million km2, spanning three continents: Asia, Africa and Europe. At its greatest extent, the empire included the modern territories of Iran, Turkey, parts of Central Asia, Pakistan, Thrace and Macedonia, much of the Black Sea coastal regions, Afghanistan, Iraq, northern Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, and all significant population centers of ancient Egypt as far west as Libya. It is noted in Western history as the antagonist foe of the Greek city states[4] during the Greco-Persian Wars, for emancipation of slaves including the Jewish people from their Babylonian captivity, and for instituting infrastructures such as a postal system, road systems, and the usage of an official language throughout its territories. The empire had a centralised, bureaucratic administration under the Emperor and a large professional army and civil services, inspiring similar developments in later empires.

Traditional view is that the Persian Empire's vast size and its extraordinary ethnocultural diversity would prove to be its undoing as delegation of power to local governments would eventually weaken the king's central authority, causing much energy and resources to be wasted in attempts to subdue local rebellions explaining why when Alexander the Great (Alexander III of Macedon) invaded Persia in 334 BCE he was faced by a disunified realm under a weak monarch, ripe for destruction.

This viewpoint however is challenged by some modern scholars who argue that the Achaemenid Empire was not facing any such crisis around the time of Alexander, and that only internal succession struggles within the Achaemenid family ever came close to weakening the Empire. Alexander, an avid admirer of Cyrus the Great, would eventually cause the collapse of the empire and its disintegration around 330 BCE into what later became the Ptolemaic Kingdom and Seleucid Empire, in addition to other minor territories which gained independence at that time. The Iranian Culture of the central plateau, however, continued to thrive and eventually reclaimed power by the 2nd century BCE.

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  • 4/26/12
  • gamcockfn
Deflecting again. So you went to zero games? October 2011-April 2012 is ancient history?
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  • 4/26/12
  • Mongoose
I thought you were still in North Carolina.
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  • 4/26/12
  • gamcockfn

They let us leave the state.

My uncle has season tickets, so I go to 5-10 games if I can. And I go twice to the PNC arena, and I go whenever they are in Nashville. I went to 7 games this year.

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  • 4/26/12
  • Mongoose
It must be nice to have such a generous uncle. Consider yourself blessed.
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  • 4/26/12
  • gamcockfn
How many did you go to? And I never said he gave them to me for free.
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  • 4/26/12
  • doc hamp
That was interesting. I enjoyed reading that.
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  • 4/27/12
  • Mongoose

I went to none this last season. In fact, I haven't made it to CEC, yet. Probably next season, though.

But it doesn't matter how many I go to. Because after all, I, too, am a tree-hugging liberal. I'm no longer a party animal, though. The age thing, you know. Was a time, though...

But the question is, how many did Kovie and Hostage go to, this last season. That I don't know, and it will be up to them to volunteer that information.

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  • 4/27/12
  • gamcockfn

I will go with zero until they state otherwise. Kovie does not chime in on hockey at all, and Mchoho is too busy stalking beat writers and athletes on Twitter.

The fact that you are or are not a tree hugger or party animal is not relevant to what I said a year+ ago. I said that because Kovie woul hate the first part and Mchoho would react to the second part. You are ignoring what was said or not reading what I wrote.

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  • 4/28/12
  • Mongoose

But that's the point, GCF. Knowing that both those guys are Pens fans, and having never seen either one of them say anyting negative about Burkle's ownership of the Pens, I'm confident that you're full of Beano.

They'd be happy if Burkle/Lemieux ever succeeded in buying the Pirates.

Kovie and Hostage are more than welcome to confirm that.

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  • 4/28/12
  • surgnbuck

Watching the Juice Crew vs. The Loo on FOX. Buck and McCarver have annointed Yadier Molina of the Cards and Carlos Gomez of the Brewers as the best defensive players at their position. What's your take?

On a side note, McCarver told an awesome story about Bob Uecker. First I ever heard of it, probably old had for some on this board. But during the World Series in 1964, Uecker played for the Cardinals. They were shagging balls in the OF, and he saw a tuba, I'm guessing from a band that was there to play, and took it out on the field and used it to shag baseballs.

After the World Series, the Cardinals sent him a bill for $216 for "A dented tuba". Uecker said the only reason he got the bill is because all the balls didn't go in the hole.

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