Thats why I would want to trade Niese and lets say Mejia or Flores for Myers and then a prospect less rated then Mejia but looks good like Bonifacio.
Myers could play in the majors possibly right out of spring training, and Bonifacio is a possibly 2-3 years out of the way.
If we also include lets say Justin Turner, maybe we can grab David Lough who is 26 and pretty much projected to be a 4th outfielder, but he is supposedly a great fielder, has some decent power and speed. Would not mind having him try out for center field or just be a good bench player for the Met's. Justin Turner would be a player the Royals may be interested in, a good utility type player. I'd give up Murphy, but I wouldn't give up Flores, and would demand Zimmer or Odorizzi with Myers.
>>>"Problem is, what about the pitching future if you trade Wheeler? If the Mets do that, they'll HAVE to sign Dickey. No sense weakening both the ML rotation and the farm in pitching."<<<
I am not saying we should trade Wheeler. I am just saying they'd be silly not to ask for the other team's best prospect, if they are giving up their own.
>>>"I can see an even Wheeler for Myers swap make sense if somehow the Mets could get a top 10 pitching prospect in return for Dickey...like a Gerrit Cole type for example. So essentially, you are trading Dickey for Myers and replacing Wheeler with someone just as good or better."<<<
I agree. If you swap Wheeler for Myers, then Dickey should be dealt for a top teir pitching prospect from elsewhere, and another outfielder if you can get it. This not idea either though.
I'd rather keep Wheeler, and just trade Dickey - even if we can't get Myers for him.
I'd take Starling + Ordorizzi for Dickey, and then put Ordorizzi in the rotation with Harvey and Wheeler this year.
That would leave us free to flip Starling + Flores or Mejia or Famili, for more advanced outfield prospects that can play in 2013.
Wheeler, Harvey, Neise, Ordorizzi, and Gee, could make for an impressive young rotation going forward.
Plus, if we get a first half out of Johan, that is anything close to what he did in the first half this year, we can trade him in July for a couple more prospects.
I'd rather keep Wheeler too and just get Myers for Dickey and tell the Royals "or else." That should get the deal done. If we have to give up more than just Dickey for Myers then I would want the entire deal expanded. Make our return Myers+Odorizzi and add Mejia/Familia to Dickey. If they really want Niese instead then that is going to cost both Myers and Odorizzi. So we can essentially provide them with 2 packages to chose from:
Dickey+Familia/Mejia for Myers+Odorizzi
Niese for Myers+Odorizzi
It is a little hard to follow exactly what KC is looking to do right now. According to all I was hearing before, they wanted to add an experienced arm to their rotation - experience starters like Dickey, Lester, Price...etc.
So now I don't get why they would be asking for Wheeler - not unless they would plan to flip him.
The is, they don't even really need Myers, and they have a lot of pitching in their system from what I saw. Like 7 or 8 of their Top 10 prospects were pitchers.
I just think Sandy has to play the waiting game with KC, and with any Dickey deal in general. Once other guys drop off the board, we shall see who blinks first.
But yeah, at the least, I could these two sides expanding the deal more to get a good balance for both teams.