He gave them an entire season. We should have signed him in the spring of 2011.

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"He gave them an entire season. We should have signed him in the spring of 2011"

No...he didn't. Once the 2011 season started he said he wouldn't negoitiate with the Mets until after the season. That told the Mets he was hellbent on being a FA looking for a big payday, and had no intention of giving the Mets any "hometown discount."

The Mets didn't sign him before the season because he was out for 40% of their games in the previous couple of seasons with injuries. I think the "wait and see" attitude after the 2010 season was the correct one from where the Mets stood. Reyes had a career year in 2011 (his walk year). Time will tell if he can do it again...and stay healthy.

This whole "hometown discount" is a bunch of BS. When you have one of the top players in the game, you lock him up and screw the discount.

What if that top player is a leader who doesn't like to lead...

Lives on talent...

Constantly hurt...

Pimps doubles

Sat on the top step and sulked through collapse #1

Was never clutch until his contract year?

Puts himself into run downs he don't run down

Gave us twelve rivals

Ya know Omar only cared about talent too right?

Reyes contract is 6/$106 million, not $120 million.

According to "sources," Reyes was willing to give the Mets a "hometown discount" -- from the NY Daily News:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2012/03/dont-listen-to-david-samson-reyes-was-open-to-five-year-deal-from-mets

"When Miami Marlins president David Samson said Tuesday that Jose Reyes was after every dollar in free agency, that seemed to contradict the shortstop’s December complaint that the Mets “didn’t want me,” and other statements about his affection for New York and the Mets.

"He said, 'I really want to play in Miami as long as you pay me $1 more than anyone else," Samson said to a group of Miami business leaders. "‘I really want to make the most money I can.’”

But people close to Reyes have long insisted that was not the case. According to sources, Reyes would have strongly considered a somewhat smaller deal from the Mets, both in years and dollars, and was shocked when his longtime team did not make an offer."

But then Jose signed with the Marlins in a big effin' hurry, never giving the Mets the time or opportunity to put together a counter offer.


As for "When you have one of the top players in the game, you lock him up," I think the Mets were correct to hesitate to do that with a guy who missed 40% of the team's games in the previous couple of seasons. 28 other teams didn't chase after Jose either.

For one of the greatest homegrown position players in Mets history the team should have at the very least put their best offer on the table. They didn't need to get into a bidding war, but they should have made a concrete offer.

AS for the Marlins motivations, that may be the case, but NY has the highest concentration of Dominican immigrants in the U.S.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/7235579/new-york-mets-gm-sandy-alderson-expect-quick-jose-reyes-resolution

" "I've said in the past, these things typically go slowly," Alderson said on Monday afternoon, after arriving at the Pfister Hotel in Milwaukee for the annual GM meetings. "But apparently Papelbon is already signed."

Alderson said he does not expect Reyes' agent, Peter Greenberg, to meet with teams at the GM meetings because Greenberg is out of the country.

FoxSports.com reported Tuesday, citing an unnamed source, that the Marlins' initial offer to Reyes was $90 million over six years.

As for the Mets' dialogue with Reyes, Alderson said: "We've had some conversations. I wouldn't classify them as substantive -- more than phone tag. ... I don't want to get into any detail. But I also while saying I don't want to comment, I don't want to give you the false impression that we are anywhere along the road. I still think it's early, notwithstanding all the background noise from the last week."

Alderson expects to be given a chance to make an offer once it gets late in the process.

"Nobody has promised us we'll have the last clear chance, but I would expect we would continue to talk with Jose's agents," Alderson said. "It's been amicable to this point." "

from the NY Post

"Reyes says Mets didn’t make real offer to keep him"

By MIKE PUMA

Last Updated: 8:52 AM, December 8, 2011

"Alderson said there was no need to make a concrete offer because Reyes’ agent, Peter Greenberg, knew the Mets’ financial parameters. According to sources, the team was willing to spend somewhere in the $85 million range over five years for Reyes with a sixth-year option."


So the Marlins spontaneously raised their own initial offer of $90 million over 6 years to $106 million with no "offer" from the Mets? You really think so?

Yes, I do. The Marlins were in negotiations with Pujols and when that deal fell through they bumped up their offer to Reyes to ensure he would sign.

If the 5/$85 with an option was truly the Mets parameters it's likely the Marlins knew that. 6/$90 might not get a deal done since 5/$85 is more on a yearly basis.

Yes 5/$85m is more per year than 6/$90m, but that means the Mets DID offer Reyes something and the Marlins raised their offer based on the Mets informal "offer." And then Reyes hurriedly signed with the Marlins without giving the Mets -- the team he said he wanted to stay with, and the team "sources" said he would accept less from -- the last opportunity to "show him some love."

"What else would be a sign of rebuilding to you? "
The better now would be excluded. You wouldn't hope for a medium between the two for a heavy emphasis on the prospects back. And no, no trades have been made to symbol rebuilding for the Mets. Feel free to point one out.

The Madoff thing was a factor. i know for a fact that in July Alderson went to see what the "ceiling" would be from ownership so he could better evluate trade proposals (which didn't happen because of the injury) and it was capped at 6/120.

You said "contemplating trades that make the team both better now and in the future." Contemplating means "thinking about" or "considering." Are you now saying the Mets are not even considering trades that make the team better now?

By the way, Pagan for Ramirez and Torres was designed to try to make the team better now, not in the future -- there were no future prospects involved. Whether it actually DOES make the team better now remains to be seen, but that's clearly what the trade was about.

>> The better now would be excluded. You wouldn't hope for a medium between the two for a heavy emphasis on the prospects back. And no, no trades have been made to symbol rebuilding for the Mets. Feel free to point one out.

The question is who do the Mets have you could trade for top prospects or real quality without hurting the system or trading Wright? No one expected Alderson to be able to pull a top pitching prospect for Beltran. Reyes possibly could have brought the same kind of talent, but he was injured. Rebuilding is a process. In the Mets case it's not just the team itself, but also the organization. To that end Alderson has put together a good FO, hired new scouts, and put new people in player development. The process has begun. Whether it will work or not remains to be seen, but I think Alderson is the right man at the right time for the Mets.