Well, lets see

Valencia
Willingham
Doumit
Carroll
Pavano
Duensing
Capps
Span
Baker
Marquis
Perkins
Liriano
Swarzak
Hughes possibly
Maybe Burroughs

13 to 15 depending on how you value hughes and burroughs

Slow down!!! You can't judge players by 4 games.

Mauer is doing terrible but you are giving him a pass for past performance. The same should go for the other players.

Oh my !!!! I suspect the stuff your taking is a no no if you actually believe that mess you wrote. I am laughing so hard I think I popped a giblet.

Wow the Yankees started 0-3, the Red Sox are 1-4 so both these clubs are just full of minor leaguers according to your analysis.

Yeah, laugh at one of the most respected members of this MB community. BTW I totally agree with him so you can laugh at me too.

Without googling it can you even tell me who Jason Marquis is?

Like others I notice you don't know much about baseball

<Man, I remember when we used to have good trolls around here....like the fella who had the horse ass for his avatar, I believe he was bandit. And then there was "The Real" Megan Fox for a little while. Those were the good ole days. There is another reason the Twins need to be good again, the better the record, the better the trolls.

No dark one. They have bad records currently. More than likely ,records that will improve significantly. The reason being is they have quality players. The Twins on the other hand have a bad record with little chance of improvement because they are a bunch of minor leaguers.

This has to be the funniest thing I have seen a long time. Why on earth would somebody even wish to troll us in our present state? He must be just learning and wants to get his experience on some team that is really easy to find weakness. Then when he gets his "training wheels" off, he will be off to spread his new craft. Otherwise, this is one really sorry individual.....lol

p.s. by the way "sx"...it helps to prove the case when your MLB "profile" is completely blank.
(you have not learned the ways of the force young jedi)

Wow you folks are quite a group. Prone to nasty comments without reason. Unwilling to tolerate views other than your own. Emotion dominating your opinions with reality be damned. How do you know what my background is with respect to your determination that I know nothing about baseball? People who are easily flustered and attack others personally for differing opinions are sad individuals. Beginning to wonder if some family trees didnt fork around here. Maybe after a few more outings with the Twins scoring 1 run on 4 hits you folks will at least consider the idea that this version of the Twinkies is 1 very bad product.

Sorry, didnt know anything about a profile. Didnt really understand anything else you wrote or exactly whata "troll" is or does. But I do have a question. Are you on drugs ?

<We all know that this team is bad...it is not as bad as it is playing right now, but bad none the less. Most of us are just tired of hearing the same old shit from several different people for the last year. After a while it gets pretty old and you are not bringing anything new to the table that we all haven't heard 1,000,000 times already. The proverbial "horse" is already beaten to death and now you jump in and dig the horse up and start molesting the corpse. And you wonder why people haven't exactly welcomed you with open arms here. It's nothing personal towards you believe me.

you know, there's this prevailing belief that EVERYTHING is a matter of opinion...many things are, and some things are not...

Saying that Mauer and Morneau are the only MLB caliber players we have in our starting 8 or 9, or however it was wrtitten, is not true...and it's not a matter of opinion, it's just not true, period.

So you don't know who Jason Marquis is...glad we cleared it up

I agree 100%. Saying that was absolutly ridiculous. I'm just letting him know that what he is saying today has already been said umpteen thousand times already. Not in regard to Mauer and Morneau but for our team not being the cream of the crop this year.

" Realistically the Twins are staring at about 45 wins this year."

Realistically, the Twins are 0-4...saying they will have the worst season in MLB history is a bit of a stretch.

Are you sure your name really isn't Davem? (Or was it Davem6?)

You are actually a God send to this message board...with the past season struggles and a lot of us taking jabs at each other, we ALL have banded together to agree that you are a troll and not a Twins fan!! Thanks!! (seriously!!)

^^

BOOM!

Nicely put!

It's fine for us to rake on the club, but by goodness...they still be our team and this is our place!

Nobody else gets to come and upset the applecart....

Auto's list is major leaguers but the problem is we have those guys in bigger roles than they should.Carrol is a utility guy not a starter,we have 4th and 5th starters leading our rotation.Our closer is at best a setup guy.I could go on.