Well, he's not actually an elected official (he's a spokesman), but he's still a public figure and his words were at least exceptionally poorly chosen for someone who should know better. He should apologize and if I were Nan Hayworth I'd have grave concerns about being associated with someone who doesn't understand how damaging to her such poor judgement can be.

Yes remember when you stick up for a man who threatens women, I will call you out on it.

So when the right says stuff like that its not meant to be taken literally, but when the left says it, its to be taken word for word?

Whether they meant to say it that way or not, those kind of comments have no buisness coming out of the mouths of our national "leaders". There is a difference between being "real" and non "PC" and being an impolite jack wagon.

Certain posters (not you) from BOTH sides need to take note of this. There is no reason why talking about trivial politics needs to being out the worst in people, to the point where common courtisy goes out the window.

In not one instance have you called me out for sticking up for a man who threatens women. Not one.

If fact, that would be impossible, because I have done nothing but condemn what he said. Indeed I said in an earlier post that if indeed his words were literal in intent then they are repugnant.

I disagreed with your take on it being meant literally. You then called me out because you thought that must mean I am a Republican, with all that you seem to think that implies. Now you know that I'm not, you're trying to shift position into an "I'm protecting women" stance.

You're not trying to protect anything. You're using any ammunition you can find to attack, based on your personal prejudices.

Get real.

+1000

Wait, so when I point out that a party with a recent history of infringing on women's rights has made an overt threat, I'm just looking for political gain? OK.

"I disagreed with your take on it being meant literally."

That's your prerogative, I dislike threats against women even the "joking" kind.

<<So when the right says stuff like that its not meant to be taken literally, but when the left says it, its to be taken word for word?>>

Not sure why you've directed that at me, if indeed you have. That's not what I said. If fact, I don't think I even mentioned what is said about the left, because it would have been off topic, and I despise partizan tennis matches.

For clarity however, since if I don't reply to your point a certain poster may now think I'm avoiding it, the answer is no. There are numerous occasions where someone on the left has said something and the right has hyped it out of all recognition. I recently read a story about how Obama, when Bush's picture at the White House was unveiled, had called Bush "George" in a speech instead of the conventional (when referring officially to a former POTUS) "Mr President". The RW media insisted he had done this out of lack of respect and that it was a deliberate slight. I have no idea what was in his mind when he said it, but my point is it's a non story, hyped by the right to feed this insane tribal was where one side believes the other is the devil incarnate (as clearly demonstrated earlier in this thread).

Both are equally stupid and have, as you quite rightly go on to say, no place in reasonable political debate.

As to common courtesy going out of the window, I completely agree. I can't recall having a genuine argument on this board since 2007, but when I feel I have behaved reasonably towards someone and they continue to throw accusations at me, eventually I lose patience as well, particularly when one post leads to someone extrapolating what my entire spectrum of policy opinion may be. I'm not proud of it, and usually I know better, particularly when having a discussion with someone who I already know to have an unbalanced political opinion. This one got away from me though.

Are we comparing a guy referring to a man by his first name to an overt threat against women? Not only has common courtesy went out the window, but so has common sense.

Yes, I now firmly believe that is your prime motivation. To attack the party you dislike by any means at your disposal.

I've never seen a political post from you that described Republicans in anything other than the most scathing terms. There are plenty of other posters on this board who don't like much about Rep policy. I'm one of them, and to be honest I don't think there is much to like about the lurch to the right the GOP has taken over recent years.

But no poster chooses to express themselves with quite the anger, the bitterness and the invective that you employ. You are so consumed with hate for the right that it blinds you to everything else. I thank God that the majority of liberals are reasonable, well intentioned people. At the extreme wing of both parties however are people like you who, if they ever represent the majority, spell disaster for the principles of democracy and freedom of speech that I value.

Whether it was meant literally or figuratively it is an attack on women and women's rights. He has alluded that these women Senators should be silenced or forced to abandon their opinions and conform to what he dictates. I would also look at it as an attack on the rights of anyone who holds the same views as these women. I would also be concerned that some anti-woman wacko might take it literally and attempt to act upon it. It is not only repugnant it is irresponsible.

"Joke" is your word, not mine. I don't think it was a joke, nor should it be treated as one.

I have no idea what you're talking about, and not for the first time.

I can sum it up like this:

We need a win big time. Too much bickering going on in here

Well said. I'm done.

Man the Tigers are bad this year. What is up with all these injuries?

I seen it and it sure sounded like he meant it..

+1000.

"The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living space of the Je.w."
- Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"Hence today I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Je.w, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
- Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"The black-haired Je.wish youth lies in wait for hours on end, satanically glaring at and spying on the unsuspicious girl whom he plans to seduce, adulterating her blood and removing her from the bosom of her own people. The Je.w uses every possible means to undermine the racial foundations of a subjugated people."
- Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"Woman's world is her husband, her family, her children and her home. We do not find it right when she presses into the world of men."
- Adolf Hitler (1935)

"I don't see much of a future for the Americans. It's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities. My feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance. Everything about the behavior of American society reveals that its half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?"
- Adolf Hitler (1942)

"It is not truth that matters, but victory."
- Adolf Hitler (1934)

"When diplomacy ends, War begins"
- Adolf Hitler (1938)

"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."
- Adolf Hitler (1940)

"What good fortunes for governments that the people do not think."
- Adolf Hitler (1932)

"I do not see why men should not be as cruel as nature."
- Adolf Hitler (1937)

"Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future."
- Adolf Hitler (1937)

"The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence."
- Adolf Hitler (1934)

"Kill, Destroy, Sack, Tell Lies; how much you want after victory nobody asks why?"
- Adolf Hitler (1931)

"Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice."
- Adolf Hitler (1941)

"The German people in its whole character is not warlike, but rather soldierly, that is, while they do not want war, they are not frightened by the thoughts of it."
- Adolf Hitler (1935)

Hey tigerbob- good thing this silly little man wasn't taken literally. How can someone with that strange mustache be taken seriously? What a nut. I wonder whatever happened to him?

"... he should know that using a term like that will give people the opportunity to quote it was meant literally and make hay with it. Very silly. Very ill advised. The good news is that stories like this are ten a penny, and by tomorrow everyone's attention will have moved on to the next shock-horror non story."
- We all know what happened applying this logic and reasoning to Chancellor Hitler

I for one take things literally when someone issues violent or terrorist threats - from whatever political leanings or philosophy they come from.

"I seen it"

Did you heared it, too?