What´s your point? My point is that his unbelievable run support resulted in his good record. Phil Hughes career ERA is above 5 as a starter. That means he´s not a good starting pitcher.

My point was pointing out that August is between May and September and he pitched very well in that month. He won 4 of his 18 wins in August and it was not because of run support. This garbage of just throwing things out there without knowing what you are talking about makes you look like a troll and hater rather than an informed fan. Does that spell out my point for you?

So sorry that Hughes disappointed you today.

I´m not "throwing things out there". You can single out his best starts and make a case for him being better than his overall numbers. Then again you could also single out his worst starts and make him look worse, but I´m not gonna do that. The ERA reflects every start and that´s really what matters the most, how good he is on average. Overall he was pretty average in 2010, saved by his amazing start to the year. If he put up a 4ish ERA every year he would make a decent starter, but his career ERA starting is above 5 making him pretty lousy by major league standards. Especially considering he´s playing for a team expecting to contend every year.

There is no doubt Phil Hughes career record is misleading due to his luck with run support. He has received 6 or more runs in support in more than half of his career starts. In his starts the Yankees score less than 6 runs his record is 4-24.

Wow, the level of intelligence on this board keeps reaching new lows. Congratulations, that one brain that you did have has left to go find the one that got lost.

I am not going to single out his worse starts to make him look bad you say and then try to bundle in the bad starts to make him look bad. The highlight of being hypocritical. I will not do what I am right now doing. The funny thing is that you don't even know that you are doing that. How sad.

Let me explain to you. If a pitcher goes out and pitches 2 games of 6 innings at 2 runs and then pitches 1 games where he gives up 3 runs in 2 innings does that make a terrible pitcher? That would give him a 4.5 era so I guess in you mind he stinks. It is so sad that the educational system has failed you.

"Let me explain to you. If a pitcher goes out and pitches 2 games of 6 innings at 2 runs and then pitches 1 games where he gives up 3 runs in 2 innings does that make a terrible pitcher? That would give him a 4.5 era so I guess in you mind he stinks. It is so sad that the educational system has failed you."

A 4.5 ERA is decent, I have not said it´s terrible. Now you are resorting to making things up. I´m gonna try to explain this one last time. Even poor pitchers have stretches where they rack up some starts with pretty good pitching lines. After all they are major leaguers. However one of the things that separates the poor pitchers from the good ones is that these stretches don´t come around as often or don´t last as long.

When looking at the effectiveness of a starter the most logical stat is the ERA. Every game is included in the ERA. All the best, all the worst, and everything in between (IP is also a telling stat but Hughes doesn´t do well there either) You could as you are create an example where the starter throws a quality start 2/3 times and somehow only pitches 2 innings albeit pretty bad ones in his 3rd. That´s not nearly the case with Hughes though. Over his career starting Hughes averages about 5.1 IP with a 5 ERA. He´s not giving the Yankees innings and he´s not pitching well. Even more concerning is that his results have been getting progressively worse.

Yeah, just like yesterday where he went 6.2 innings and gave up 3 runs. I mean who would want a pitcher like that. Have you ever played an inning of baseball in your life? Your lack of baseball knowledge is astounding.

Right now, I don't believe the spot that Pettitte will take is the one Hughes has. It should be the one that David Phelps has.

I just don't believe the Yankees have given up on Hughes as a starter, just yet. I don't further believe that the team will make their decision based on ' the arbitration issue in an upcoming offseason'.

"that would be midges. something that seems to only live in the sty that is Cleveland."

"What do you expect when you build a ballpark by the ocean?" - Albert Belle

I know they want to trim payroll, but they won't make a decision today, on what will happen then.....the payroll situation will get handled.