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    • Can the FO be the problem of the Marlins
  • 8/7/12
  • underdog2006

I can spell. I can't type.

Look at who your email was "To:" right about your name. It was "To:" me, not swampguy. Sounds like you still don't understand the software.

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  • 8/7/12
  • vettecor

I SAID IT BEFORE AND WILL SAY IT AGAIN, MISERY LOVES COMPANY. WHY DON'T YOU CALL UP OZZIE AND SEE IF YOU CAN WORK FOR HIM.

THE TWO OF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OF HIS MISTAKES. MAYBE HE WILL HELP YOU OUT WITH YOUR SPELLING AND TYPING ERRORS.

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  • 8/7/12
  • vettecor

I AM STILL WAITING FOR ALL THE FACTS THAT I WAS WRONG ON. WHERE ARE THEY?

YOU PICKED THE RIGHT USER NAME, UNDERDOG !!!


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Edited 8/7/12   by  vettecor
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  • 8/7/12
  • Boycott_Marlins

"Ligero" ?

huh? What are you talking about? Anyway get a life. This team is badly ran, and it's under a terrible ownership. I stand by my remarks.

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  • 8/10/12
  • underdog2006

I apologize. You're right - I really can't find any facts one way or another. You post opinions. You think they're facts, and nobody can argue that this is one bad baseball team, but your overwhelming negativism is confusing. Who spends time following something that makes him as unhappy as the Marlins obviously make you?

You musta never been a Mets fan. I grew up a Mets fan. I know what it's like to root for a bad team, year after year. A team who traded a Hall of Famer for nothing (Seaver for Zachary, Flynn, and Dan Norman). But I still would enjoy the occassional 3-game winning streak or a solid season by somebody like John Stearns. You don't seem to enjoy anything.

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  • 8/11/12
  • vettecor

I ENJOY FRUSTRATING YOU. IT MAKES MY DAY.

YOU ARE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR SPELLING AND TYPING. DIDN'T YOU CONTACT OZZIE YET ABOUT HELPING YOU WITH THIS ?

YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING. I WAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE A METS FAN.

ANY MANAGER ON ANY OTHER TEAM WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED MONTHS AGO IF THEY HAD PERFORMED AS BAD AS OZZIE HAS. WHAT WOULD OZZIE HAVE TO DO TO GET FIRED ? HE HAS PROBABLY COST THE MARLINS AT LEAST 10 GAMES BECAUSE OF HIS LOUSY MANAGING.

I WILL TELL YOU ANOTHER THING. IF OZZIE HAD PULLED THIS CR AP IN NEW YORK, THEY WOULD HAVE HUNG HIM OUT TO DRY. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED BACK IN EARLY PART OF JULY, MAYBE EVEN JUNE.

OZZIE HAS RUINED THIS TEAM AND HAS MADE THE MARLINS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF BASEBALL.

HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THE SERIES ON SHOWTIME CALLED THE FRANCHISE ? OZZIE ACTS LIKE THE BIGGEST JERK EVER.

NO PLAYER IN ANY CLUB WOULD ENJOY PLAYING FOR THIS IDIOT. I LOVE BASEBALL BUT NOT OZZIE BASEBALL THAT'S WHY I GET UPSET.

THANK GOD FOOTBALL HAS STARTED. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

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  • 8/11/12
  • bellugawhale
I agree on some points with you on this one....I do think that this office is to gentle to the players and coaches.....How many years we had to put up with Hanley,if he was on another team acting like he did here he would be gone in a heart beat.....Ozzie choosing Bell to close time after time yeah I blame him too for a bunch of games that we lost that we had it in the bag....I mean really blowing up a 5 game run in the 9th and no one warming up.......wow....
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  • 8/12/12
  • fshfanatic

Let's face it folks ... the FO is taking us all for a ride ... we are paying ML ticket prices to watch minor league team play. This latest line up is a joke ... Hernandez who? Green who? Hayes, please! Le Blanc, starting pitcher? And then Bell to top it off!

I'm mad ... no season tickets for me next year.

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  • 8/12/12
  • Evinator63
its part of the bad karma, the uniforms are ridiculous, clowns at the circus
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  • 8/13/12
  • bajan997
You are so right, i think the fo have folks who read these boards and when they see fans are behind some of the things their do, why change, if someone post something against the fo, somefolks will jump all over them,
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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo

Stop with the unis ok?

If you dont have any real opinion then just clam up.

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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo

I agree with your facts..............and as a long time fan I now refuse to support this ownership.

In fact I hate that little twerp Samson...he's an egotistical litle puke ball.

Someone should punch his lights out.

What a shameful disgrace they have created for a town that deserves much better.

I would not be dissappointed if they left this city.

At this point there are about a million reasons that have been written about on this blog that explain the reasons why this team is so bad.....but only a new REAL owner can fix this .....forget about that ugly POS Loria........

With the three stooges coaching this team (Ozzie, Perez, Leclair) there is NO HOPE......

so lets forget about baseball and support the Dolphins....ok?

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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo

why do you berate Mr Ghettogod1997.....basically everything he has said is true......are you just jealous of him because he has good ideas and expresses them clearly........

a lot of you guys out there are constantly busting him but you guys write like a bunch of illiterate chinamen.

The fish are a third rate organization run by scoum*bags.....they are laughing all the way to the bank.......while you jerkballs still support them and go to the games and buy tickets, parking, food, souveneirs and all that other C*R*A*P!!!!!!!!!!

If you continue to support this team with this group of coaches then YOU are the shmucks....and you will get what you deserve............GARBAGE!

Kudos to Ghettogod1997 and all those others who are sick of this garbage and refuse to support this d-rated team......and express it too.

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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo
Exactly what I have said since beginning of the season when every one was raving about the park and not the team.............what a bunch of stupid fans we have here in S.Fl
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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo

Hey UD.....why do you have a personal problem with guys like me......we didnt start by criticizing you.....only by expressing our understanding and frustration about this org.

If you dont agree then fine....lets hear you analysis of why this team is the 2nd or 3rd worst in all of baseball..........can you do that without attacking someone for their opinion.

I support all those who complain or whine about this team because the town deserves much better especially with the money they handed out to build Loria a new grand stadium.

I am officially calling for a boycott of going to home games, by all true fans of the marlins until this team has a new mgr, FO and coaches......hopefully a new owner as well.

So please shut up unless you have some reasons as to why this team S*U*C*K*S.

Just criticizing the posters here is not constructive at ALL.

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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo

FYI.....guys like me and Ligero dont just say the team S*U*C*K*S.....they explain why and offer problem resolutions.......so you are way out of line with you attitude and critiques.

Again....let me say once more.........this town has about 550 million reasons to be fed up with Loria, Ozzeee and the coaches etc etc.

We need all new administartion for sure.

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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo

Anyone who buys season tickets next year must be a true MASOCHIST, or have money to burn, or has no life.

If I was rich, I still wouldnt buy Marlins tickets.....who would want to waste their time going to watch a pathetic display like these guys produce night after night.......they make the 62 Mets look good.......well almost.... LOL

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  • 8/13/12
  • paulyrulo

Didnt any of you posters have an issue with these uniforms at the beginning of the year?

Didnt they look like buffonns then?

Hate the Yankees or not.....they have always run an org with class.

Ever notice that the unis have no names....only numbers.......think there is no message there?

The Marlins are a 3rd rate org selling all sizzle and no steak!

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  • 8/13/12
  • vettecor

Pauly its hard for Underdog to understand why you and I get so upset about the FO and Ozzie.

How can a MLB team hire and keep this POS as a manager ? How come Perez hasn't been terminated yet ? Why hasn't St Claire been fired ?

Its mistake after mistake after mistake but everybody keeps their job!!

Ozzie acts like he is NUTS. Constantly looking up in the stands, laughing in the dugout, and making recent comments like "Its really weird and funny on how the Marlins have been playing". This was his comment when asked about the Marlins losing a game.

If Ozzie hasn't been fired by now does that mean he will be managing the Marlins next year ?

Loria is paying this clown $2.5 million dollars a year to run the team into the ground. It will take years to erase this joke of a season.

That's why I get upset. I have stated facts but Underdog says I whine. Get over it because its all true.

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  • 8/13/12
  • underdog2006

I did tell why I think the team is so terrible - the front office, specifically their evaulation of talent. I pointed to all the bad #1 draft choices, signings like Buck, etc. I've posted that 9 years without the playoffs is too long and other teams have fired their GMs with similar dry runs, and that we should do the same. I've also called Ozzie an idiot for all the garbage he says and that he's a joke that nobody takes seriously.

I've posted lots of anti-Loria stuff, not so much with the ballpark deal but more with the revenue sharing money, his meddling, and the stuff he did in Montreal.

Does any of that count for posting reasons why the team s#cks? Or does it only count when you type in all caps?

On the other hand, I don't think Ozzie's in-game managing matters a whole lot, or that he'd get fired for it. I don't think his in-game managing is particularly good, just that it doesn't matter.

As far as the coaching, beats me if Perez and St. Claire are good or not. If they're bad, then how do you explain Stanton and Ceshak? If they're good, how do you explain Hanley and Nolasco? Of the two, I'm probably more anti-Perez because I think he got the job through nepotism rather than merit and the starting pitching was pretty solid for the first half of the season.

However, I'm not constantly anti-front office. Beinfest has done some good things too - Stanton was a great draft pick. Some of their small pickups have turned out well, like Uggla and Ross and Ruggiano. On the whole, I think Beinfest has done a bad job and should be fired but because I'm not 100% negative and make every post a rant about Ozzie or Loria or the coaches, then I'm a "front office lover."

Here's the problem with thinking everybody s#cks - if it's the players that are so bad, then you can't expect Ozzie to win with them. If the players are good, and it's Ozzie holding them back, then Beinfest has done well with getting players and just needs to get rid of Ozzie to start winning, and for all we know Ozzie could be a Loria special.

Different subject - I don't think Solano is going to be any good. You do. I have a reason for thinking he'll be no good - he was no good in the minors. Do you have any reason to think he will be good other than he's not Hanley? Can you name any other hitter with a lifetime .633 minor league OPS who was good in the majors? Same thing with Hayes - didn't you think Hayes was much better than Buck simply because he's not Buck? Buck is terrible; Hayes is worse (and is now in the minors).

BTW - how do you know Ligero? I didn't think you posted when he was here. GhettoGod has made less than 10 posts, some just making fun of the uniforms. Why are you such a supporter of somebody who has never posted? Or do you agree that GhettoGod is another screen name for JoeBatz, Ligero, Robusto, CigarGuy, etc?

BTW2 - why do you care about the money handed to Loria by Miami? If Miami hadn't handed Loria that money, the Marlins would be in San Antonio. And besides, don't you live in Boynton or something? How would Miami tourist tax money that was required to go to sports teams affect you? I hate the idea that Loria gets anybody's tax money and would love if they found something illegal that he'd done but I can't help it that the politicians in Miami were idiots; if anything it makes me happy I don't live in Dade county.


Edited 8/13/12   by  underdog2006
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