"if Belt isn't producing he shouldn't be in there."
How do you know if someone can produce if they are never given a real shot? Belt has proven he can crush the ball in the minors, he has yet to get a real shot in the majors.
I don't think anyone is arguing against that. What people are arguing over is how long should he have to get in a groove and show that he can help the team, or be a bust.
This is a new year. He played in the winter league and tore it up. He earned a job in ST. Now, in the regular season he's had 10 at bats. TEN.
It seems as though you're saying that those 10 at bats are sufficient to declare that he is basically a bust and he can't help the team win.
I'd argue that 3 games isn't a reasonable amount of time. He's never had a solid stretch of even 90 or 100 ABs. All I'm saying is that he should get at least that before he's deamed as not valuable to the team. Obviously you disagree and that's fine. I just hope that every single one of our prospects come up and hit .300 or so in their first 100 at bats to satisfy your level of expectation.
Even the guys at Rotoworld see it:
"It's the second straight game off for Belt, who was expected to serve as San Francisco's primary first baseman this season. *It seems that Giants manager Bruce Bochy is overreacting to the 23-year-old's 1-for-10 start*. Aubrey Huff is starting at first base vs. the Rockies."
I have not seen him get any consistent play-time in the majors. No. So how can I judge his at-bats?
He has played 2... 2 games this year and you have come to the conclusion he looks over-matched? You have a better eye than most scouts.
You've got to give your young players a chance to play. Belt hasn't gotten that chance. He had a good number of bats as a rookie, but they played him like a yo-yo. He didn't know from one day to the next whether he would be playing. And he's had Huff looking over his shoulder all the time, and undoubtedly he knows of Bochy's penchant for playing the veteran. He also knows that any time he messes up, he'll be riding the bench.
Talk about a hole in a bat. Huff has one of the biggest. Anything on the inside part of the plate (because he stands too close to the plate) or any sharp breaking ball down inside and he's toast. The league has caught on to him and everyone knows of these weaknesses. That's why he tanked last year and again so far this year. He had a Ryan Braun type season in 2010, but before that and ever since, he's been an overpaid disaster. He doesn't deserve to play. His time has come and gone. He's not the future, or the present. He's hitting .200 with no power.
The best thing the Giants could do is cut Huff. Give the young guys a chance. Crawford has obviously benefited from that chance because he doesn't have anyone looking over his shoulder. At SS, he is it. The same thing could very easily happen if they give Belt and Pill the same kind of opportunity, tell them they're playing regardless. Let the chips fall. As things stand now, this team's fortunes are going to ride on the performance of the pitching staff, and the hitting of Cabrera, Pablo, Posey, and Freddy if he could return at his usual self., and maybe Sanchez. If Belt and Pill could step up and contribute, at a reasonable level, this team could easily go somewhere. It's worth the risk. Huff will take us nowhere, but down.
"The Giants have been patient with Belt, giving him many chances to succeed last year."
LOL!!! That's so funny. You should be the Giants stand-up comic with this bit of yours.
Yes, didn't you know? 10 at-bats in 3 games is showing great patience with a player. Crawford starts out 1-11 in his first 3o games just like Belt yet he keeps on starting like it's nothing, and is looking better. Belt starts 1-10 and he gets to rot on the bench after being given a fair chance to succeed...
No double standard there.
I keep seeing this thread and for some inexplicable reason I keep thinking it says:
"Belt fails to bench 10 lbs."
sorry. Carry on...
I kinda feel like Belt needs to be on a bad team. A team that doesn't need instant gratification and high-level production in 2012. A team that is maybe 2-3 year from competing would be a good fit.
But I don't know any players I would want to give up Belt for besides Alexi Ramirez. And no team is going to give up prospects for a prospect.
I think by the end of June the Giants will have an idea of what they really need and will consider trading him for the right piece.
The thing with The love for Belt is a combination of 2 things. 1. His potential is incredibly high and all of us would love to see him reach that potential. 2. I think a lot of people want him to be successful for some reason, maybe because we yearn for a home grown team and it's been forever since we had multiple home grown hitters that panned out.
I was, and still am, a huge Belt fan. I want him to do well because he adds another great glove in the infield, looks to have power to play well at 1B and he will be cheap and under team control for years to come. In a perfect world, Belt could be the 5 hole hitter for the next 10 years behind Pablo and Posey. The story is just too good to not want.
Lately though, I have been more realistic about his chances to be successful in San Francisco. The fact is, Belt is not an outfielder, he is a 1B man. A pretty good one too. Buster Posey will be playing 1B full time no later than 2014 (in my opinion). He could make the transition faster depending on Hector Sanchez and his development behind the plate. If that was to happen, trading Belt becomes the most likely thing to do. No matter how anyone feels about Belt here, he is still a bright young star and could be flipped for another piece that could make us a much better team now and for the future.