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    • I Love Gordon, but...
  • 4/16/12
  • blueinsac
Plus he's going to have to do better than a .200 avg and .273 obp if he plans to stick around.
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  • 4/16/12
  • trueblew
He is too aggressive at the plate and not taking enough pitches IMO which means he will only improve at the plate. He shows flashes of brilliance at SS and its very likely reps will only make him better at that position. He is a factor and messes with the opposition every time he comes to bat. The box score does not tell the whole story as his speed messes with the opposing defense. He is changing the game. A little patience, this guy is a diamond in the rough I think.
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  • 4/16/12
  • bigdalephan

Well his stint last year shows hes capable of much better numbers than he has right now. (not to mention wayyy better numbers in the minors)

Im not worried about that.

Im hoping that at 24 he can find more confidence at fielding...not so jittery.

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  • 4/16/12
  • blueinsac

"...this guy is a diamond in the rough I think...."

I truely hope so.

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  • 4/16/12
  • blueinsac

"...Well his stint last year shows hes capable of much better numbers than he has right now. (not to mention wayyy better numbers in the minors)..."

But, but let's face it: if he flamed out, he wouldn't be the first guy to show tons of potential only to never realize it.

Either way, I'm all for giving the guy a fair chance. I just hope he finds his groove.

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  • 4/16/12
  • cooldodgerdude

I agree....

He is very aggressive at the plate and he also swings like a hr hitter and not a contact hitter. I think he should learn to slap at the ball more and swing more leveled.

If he continues to not get on base as much than I would like to Sellers given more of a chance and maybe see Dee do some pinch running later in games.

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  • 4/16/12
  • KEMVP27
Its the speed thats keeping him in the bigs
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  • 4/16/12
  • TROBOB
He is the best we have. Who are you going to play in front of him? He will be fine. I actually find some comfort in the .273 obp with a .200 avg. He is walking more than last season already. I think he will start hitting and wouldn't be surprised to see him in the .280-.300 range at some point. They may need to sit him against some tough lefties for awhile, but he will continue to get better and better. As for his defense, you are just gonna have to take the good with the bad. Sometimes he is going to look brilliant and at other times he is going to look like he belongs in AAA. No reason to mess with his head by sending him down now.
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  • 4/17/12
  • ifyoucanthityoumustsit

<< He shows flashes of brilliance at SS >>

You must be speaking of Flesh Gordon not our SS

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  • 4/17/12
  • dodgrbruin

I like him too. He's a phenomenal athlete. Considering his quickness & range, his athletic ability and a pretty decent albeit unorthodox arm, I believe he will become at least an above average shortstop and maybe a really good one. He's been a good hitter for average on his way up so the possibility exists that he will rise to that level in the bigs. With his speed one would think that he just has to make contact and spray that ball around a little. Throw in a steady ration of bunts and push bunts to keep the defense in tight and his OBP should be pretty fair. And that's when his real job starts - to score runs.

I was at the game at Petco when the kid 3 stolen bases. I was sitting right at first base. When Gordon stole 2B in the first inning, Lopes strolled over to the first base umpire and showed him his stopwatch while shaking his head. Like this kid has speed like maybe we haven't seen before in a Dodger uniform.

He appears to have some mental fortitude and being the son of a big leaguer tends often seems to eliminate some of the intimidation that the Bigs pose to most young players. I think he is a hard working, heady young athlete who will learn how to adjust and succeed.

Because he appears ready to take on the adversities inherent to playing MLB, he probably doesn't have as much to gain as he does playing under the tutelage of Coach Lopes or to a lesser extent but probably still impactful from Maury Wills. He also has Ellis hitting second and what a fine 2-spot hitter Ellis is. He knows his primary job is to facilitate Gordon getting to 3rd in his at bat for Kemp et al to knock in. It's a good system and I think young Dee will fluorish.

I'm not smart enough to know if he can stay healthy or whether MLB pitchers or managers will figure out how to pitch him and/or align the defense to keep him off the bases. But if they don't and he can stay on the field, he could become a run scoring machine. And that's half the battle.

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  • 4/17/12
  • globetrekker
We have no one better to play SS so the Dodgers are going to sink or swim with Gordon, whether we like it or not. I like Gordon because he's such a treat with his speed when he reaches base, resulting in pitchers throwing more fastballs to the next batters. He should be 8/8 in steals but the umpire got the call wrong .. c'est la vie
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  • 4/17/12
  • bigdalephan

Well we do have better SS's...in that we have guys who are actually better fielders than Gordon.

I think Gordon has the potential to be a really good SS...but he messes up wayyy more than he should. He'll have lots of errrors.

Having said that, i agree id rather him leading the lineup than any of our other SS's, thats for sure. Which is why hes playing SS!

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  • 4/17/12
  • bigdalephan

>>>But, but let's face it: if he flamed out, he wouldn't be the first guy to show tons of potential only to never realize it.<<<

True...but most guys who are consistently good in the minors and flame out in the MLB are pretty bad out of the gate.

Gordon hit .304 BA and .363 OBP in his first 50 MLB games. Thats impressive for a rookie. And he hit better his second half than his first.

I have no reason to believe he will be a .240 BA .290 OBP for this year like he is in April.

But hey, sophmore slump i guess they call it :p He seems too committed to let that happen though

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  • 4/17/12
  • summerboy
That's the case, Globe, and tho I was disturbed that he kicked 3 balls in Sunday's game, he also brings a tremendous plus with his athleticism and skills. Dee has already produced 2 walk-off wins in this young season - the man is clutch, and brings unmatched excitement to the games. like Raffy at his best, he is going to make a lot of errors, but he is a net big plus for us.

Edited 4/17/12   by  summerboy
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  • 4/17/12
  • nwlad58

Really mutts, 50 errors? How many times did Gordon have 50 errors in the minors? Are groundballs somehow easier to catch in the minors? Throws easier to make? I think guys have more errors in the minors than they do in the majors because of field conditions and because they learn to play the position.

Derek Jeter had 56 errors one year in the minors, but Dee Gordon . . . . . I don't think so.

You'd have more credibility if you would back off the exaggeration and hyperbole, like Strasburg and Kershaw the "greatest match-up of all-time".

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  • 4/17/12
  • boron

"Well his stint last year shows hes capable of much better numbers than he has right now. (not to mention wayyy better numbers in the minors)"

In the same way that Loney showed he could do better in him first stint with the club? The question is not how you do when you are first called up, but how you handle it when pitchers start adjusting to you. We will see if Gordon can make the adjustments.

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  • 4/17/12
  • globetrekker
He probably beat the scorer with his bat every single time he/she tried to credit him with an error.
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  • 4/17/12
  • nwlad58
Actually, he did, in 1989 in a combined year at A-AA.
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