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    • Matt Holliday SIZZLING Hot
  • 8/6/12
  • rockstar89
I think yesterday McCutchen broke an 11 game RBI'less streak. He maybe slowing down. Which is bad news for the Bucs without his offense that team will go south unless someone else steps up.
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  • 8/6/12
  • thezebra31
That guys hot PERIOD!!!
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  • 8/27/12
  • MrXray
TRADE HIM!
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  • 8/27/12
  • Opium
He doesn't even have hair!...we must act as sensible folk and bench that shaved freak!!!

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  • 8/27/12
  • mactwist2
I know he can't realistically be leading the MVP vote by a long shot at this point but at this point in the season that man is my MVP. .309 AVG, 23 HR, 89 RBI. He's only getting better too.
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  • 8/27/12
  • mactwist2
In the NL, he's 7th in batting average, tied 10th in HR, and 1st in RBI's. Not quite MVP numbers but I mean he's gotta be close.
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  • 8/27/12
  • Opium
Meekest and Vile as Possible...?
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  • 8/27/12
  • Jerseygirl
I agree and he plays good baseball too :-)
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  • 8/27/12
  • Redbird_Willie_1
Go away "B".......u r not welcomed on this board...hee hee
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  • 8/27/12
  • jaynovahawk07

Since June 16, Matt Holliday has hit well enough to put up the following numbers -

.351/.416/.612/1.028 with 13 home runs and 54 runs batted in.

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  • 8/27/12
  • Barnabas_Libtard

<<<Not quite MVP numbers but I mean he's gotta be close.>>>

He has a shot at it if he finishes strong. I haven't checked McCutchen's numbers for a while but I know he's been struggling during the Pirates mini-slump. That might hurt his chances. Melky and Votto are obviously out of the conversation right now, too. Holliday is very much in the hunt. I wouldn't shake a stick at Yadi, either.

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  • 8/27/12
  • dawakokid
I'd love to see Yadi win it, but let's be honest. Defense has nothing to do with MVP voting, and that's the best aspect of his game. Granted he's having his best offensive season to date, but he hasn't been getting near enough publicity from any media outlet to even be considered.
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  • 8/27/12
  • MarxMarvelous
How's Greene doin, stupid?
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  • 8/27/12
  • Barnabas_Libtard

I think defense helps more than you're making out. How else can you explain Pudge's MVP over Manny Ramirez, who had 50some more RBI?

A month or so ago I posted my Top 5 MVP candidates. I think I had McCutchen, Cabrera, Holliday, Votto, and Braun in that order. I don't think it's a stretch to have Molina on that list now.

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  • 8/27/12
  • dawakokid

How many years ago did Pudge beat out Manny? Had to be close to 10. Since then, I highly doubt if any premier defensive player has placed in the top 3 or even 5 of any MVP race. Yes, part of that is that many premier defensive players don't have the offensive numbers as well. However, I think we'll really be able to tell how much weight is placed on defensive performance this season by taking a look at where Yadi winds up compared to Buster Posey.

Posey owns to lead against Yadi in pretty much all offensive categories, but I highly doubt you'll find outside of San Fran (and maybe Bristol, CT), who says Buster is the better defensive player.

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  • 8/27/12
  • Barnabas_Libtard

I don't consider 10+ years ago to be that far back. Not far enough to erase precedent, anyway. Besides, the steroids era changed things over the past decade or so.

There are plenty of examples in post-strike baseball where defense clearly was a big factor in voters' minds. Barry Larkin is another example. A guy like Mike Piazza is the reverse-example. He probably has multiple MVP awards if he's a GG-caliber defensive player.

You make a good point regarding Posey. It will be interesting between he and Yadi.

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  • 8/27/12
  • Redbird_Willie_1
The original(only) Pudge is Carlton Fisk not that Steroid Cheat Ivan Rodriguez. Ivan is not worthy of that nickname , so lose it

Edited 8/27/12   by  Redbird_Willie_1
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