This is sad that in order to watch the Angels one must pay for the privilege..you'd never see the Dodgers alienate their fans this way.
I've been an Angels fan from the very beginning and this is hard to accept.
" This is sad that in order to watch the Angels one must pay for the privilege..."
Not sad at all. They've got a lot of salary to pay.
You can "watch" the game on the radio for free. I had no problem doing this for a few decades.
If the Angels mean something to you there should be no problem in paying something for the ability to enjoy them.
< you'd never see the Dodgers alienate their fans this way. >
Don't fool yourself... if the Dodgers sign with Time Warner as they are rumored they may end up with not only most games only on cable, but either Pay Per View or having to purchase a Premium channel.
"Not sad at all. They've got a lot of salary to pay."
The Angels payroll isn't the fans problem, the owner determines how much he wants it to be.
This is just another case of a selfish zillionaire taking something away from joe sixpack that he's been enjoying for 50 years just so he can line his pockets with more money..don't fool yourself, that's what it's about if true.
I've been a loyal Angels fan from the beginning and I supported them for many years when they were a joke and now that the fortunes have changed a little they do this to their fan base..oh well.
Enjoy the money Arte.
Loyal and longtime fan here, too. And I happily pay for cable so I can watch the Halos on FSW...and I was a little kid who listened to them on the AM radio stashed underneath my pillow in the 1960s...and Arte puts the $ back into the franchise so they'll be a success (recent signees a testament to that). If he wanted nothing but $, he'd sell the team and claim his profit. He's as good an owner as there is in sports, not just baseball.
Oh, and paying for cable, I was able to watch a movie the other day about this guy who looked for symbols in and around Rome, and having something to do with the Illuminati ...then the same guy was in this other movie about symbols in Washington DC...something to do with the Freemasons...if I had rabbit ears on top of my TV, I don't think I would have seen those movies (but the books were better...).
You may have been a fan all those years but it doesn't sound like you've supported them, or have a desire to. When you support them you help them pay the bills.
Not to mention that you're complaining about losing maybe half a dozen free broadcast games. Really?
"You may have been a fan all those years but it doesn't sound like you've supported them, or have a desire to. When you support them you help them pay the bills."
Look, I know that it's going to be unpopular to come here and complain about a greedy owner that took something away from the fans..so be it.
As far as my support for the Angel organization goes, you don't know me and you don't have a clue about what I do or have done.
"Not to mention that you're complaining about losing maybe half a dozen free broadcast games. Really?"
Really? You think KCOP only broadcast half a dozen games a year? lol
More like 40 to 50 games depending on what years we're talking about.
Again, enjoy the money Arte.
"Here is a hint, if you can't or don't want cable that is fine, find a nice restaurant or sports bar and enjoy the game for free and meet some fans from both teams!"
Look, I don't have time to watch much TV except for some sports, so purchasing cable is a waste of my money and I'm not going to do that just so I can watch the Angels.
Sorry but I see this as nothing but greed.
When Arte decides he needs a new stadium (and he will some day) are you going to be willing to help foot the bill for a park that you most likely won't be able to afford to go to? That's what sports are turning into..money making vehicles for the wealth to enjoy and the heck with the rest of us.
I lived in OC for most of the 1960s and was lucky to get 20-25 Angel games on KTLA Ch. 5 and 12-15 Dodger Games on KTTV Ch. 11. With a modest antenna on the roof we had no cable and therefore no cost for broadcasting.
When our family moved to Louisiana in 1972, Dad asked for and received from his employer a 50 foot antenna tower because of the poor reception here. Even with that we only received one clear channel and two in-town stations were snowy. That's the reality in most places of the country. We would pay anything for cable but had to wait three years before it was offered in our neighborhood.
Most people have cable and it isn't a radical proposal to put games on a cable channel they already have from their cable provider.
Plus, you have access to almost every game on television. Going from 25 to 162 televised is the big difference, plus now we have free agency whereas in the 60s players were bound to the team that signed them, which depressed salaries to $100K or less. The expenses for the guy watching the team on TV haven't risen nearly as much as the cost of maintaining a baseball team.
To comment from another point-of-view:
I think it's great all the games are going to be on Fox Sports. Why? Because I live in Santa Barbara County, and our cable company does not carry KCOP, and hasn't for the past couple of years. I used to get really ticked off when a game was on and couldn't watch it because it was on 13 -- and I couldn't watch it on mlb.tv either because it was blacked out.
As far as the financial aspect, Fox Sports is included in the cheapest cable package for pretty much every provider, I believe (and pretty much all satellite services too). I'd guess about 90-95 percent of the fan base has FSW, so I don't think they're abandoning too much of the fanbase.
After this season they will follow the Angels and Lakers and the Kings and Ducks and Chivas u and the Galaxy and the Clippers and etc and etc and etc and only will be shown on Pay Tv.
When the Angels were on free TV (KCAL 9) back in the mid to late 90's they did not give the fans much games on that station. I think it was only 45 games w/ rabbit ears.
I wish it was all free, but I look at this as it is much cheaper for me not to buy season tix, buy yucky stadium food and use up expensive gas driving 60 miles to see the Halos play.
Cable/sat/ tel-co. TV is much better on the wallet!
There is also MLB.TV
" Sorry but I see this as nothing but greed."
Sorry but I see this as nothing but cheapness. Either you enjoy baseball enough to put out a little dough or you don't.