If this were true- it is a deceitful, childish trick.

No it is not a childish trick....it is not deceitful.....nothing
about religion is deceitful....you get to make your own decisions,
you get to be in control....you have made a decision, a decision
not to believe not to be a part of it....fine....that is the beauty of it, you
can do this.....

maybe this is more direct. the constitutional interstate commerce clause and each individual states Department of Insurance which regulates things such as health care trumps whatever brand of religion you worship if you offer benefits.

That is true....but it could change with a SC decision.....nine people, if just five
on them feel one way, we all have to follow that decision.....wouldn't it be great
if you could just ask the SC to tell you if their was a God, if there was life after death?

First Ammendment trumps interstate commerce clause. You actually think this is a States rights issue controlled by a states health commision which is controlled by its States Constitution?

TYAN so which is it. your all for giving the power back to the states and i believe 20 something states department of insurance already have it in their state codes that this contraceptive provision is to be covered but now the Obama uses the ISCC which is a fed code and your upset. you hypocrite make up your mind and stick with it.

I respect a person's right to their own belief system, no matter how irrational I think it is. If they allow me to do the same, we'll live in peace.
If they try to force their way on me, I will resist. And I will not try to force my way on them.

I guess that's my definition of respect.

Anyone care to explain why you are propagating lies?

Congratulations on your windfall!

Monty's point is that, if you are religious, for some reason you are not expected to provide a good basis for why we should accomodate you.

It is not an either or situation. No state requires a religious organization to provied insurance that covers contraception and RU486 'morning after'. Name one that does, and before you try to look it up, the recent HHS decision is landmark in that category.

you know, someone just MIGHT ask you to explain yourself... you know, like "whicthings were lies" and 'why they are lies". but it's not going to be me, because I don't want you getting all mad at me.

Being against contraception is an archaic belief with no basis that runs contrary to our laws of reason. I think we are all quite aware of how we bend over backwards for religion... I think the topic asks, "Why?"

Hmm, the fire is dying. Let's throw on another log, shall we?:

Your faith is a joke -- Pat Condell
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4dSiHqpULk

There is NO reason to respect religion. In fact, there is a mountain of reasons to DISrespect it.

One example of a blatant lie:

"Sorry, you can't take illegal narcotics like cannabis to ease the pain of your cancer. Light that joint and we will lock you up. What's that? Your smoke/snort/drink these substances for religious reasons? Then go right ahead!"

Employment Division v. Smith says otherwise.

You may continue your war on religion unabated. After all, what is an atheist good at anyway if not that? At least you were baptised, and soap and water won't change it, but buckydevil is on the move!

That doesn't refute what he said. that decision was not to make it illegal, it was regarding unemployment benefits.

Are you trying to tell me I can't find two or three examples of exactly what he said? because I'll bet I can.

So, wrong on that one. now, the other "lies" of which you speak?

Thanks for NEATLY providing an illustration of EXACTLY what Monty is talking about Imagine the audacity of a fool thinking he is in a position to give permission to an opponent to challenge him. That sounds just like something a religious person would do, because they operate from the premise that their nonsensical beliefs deserve some respect they have neither earned nor deserve.

Go for it.

here you go TYAN.

""At least 26 states have laws requiring insurers that cover prescription drugs also provide coverage for any Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved contraceptive. These states include: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. An additional two states—Michigan and Montana—require insurance coverage of contraceptives as a result of administrative ruling or an Attorney General opinion. Two states—Texas and Virginia—require that employers be offered the option to include coverage of contraceptives within their health plans.

<http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/health/insurance-coverage-for-contraception-state-laws.aspx

and so i don't leave this part out

""Twenty-one states offer exemptions from contraceptive coverage, usually for religious reasons, for insurers or employers in their policies: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan (administrative rule), Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas and West Virginia.""

"Being against contraception is an archaic belief with no basis that runs contrary to our laws of reason."
Too bad you aren't living in a country governed by the 'laws of reason' as defined by you, it is a Constitutional Republic with constitutional protections and laws based on that. TS Buncko.

And before I do, let me say that the decision you presented ONLY says it is NOT "required" to allow certain religious exemptions, and it is allowable still to do . And we do.