Agree with enfoe on this one.
Nothing against theripper but I propose a 2 day suspension from the board just for this thread title. All in favor type aye!
"Anyway, I don't think the doggies can compete with Yankees, Sox, Rangers, etc. etc. big money team in bidding that would take place for Cain on the FA market."
Right now they can't but as soon as the new ownership takes over and they sign that contract with Fox it will give them $100+ million a year in their TV contract. It could and more likely be closer to the deal that the Halos just signed last season.
It's only a matter of time until the issues in LA get solved and they start spending $160-$180 million a season on payroll. They will get new ownership and the Fox contract will pretty much put them on par with the Halos.
Dude, I gotta tell you, your act has kind of become asinine. Here you are, continuing to slam off about Sabean where it's obvious now he built this team up from nothing with homegrown players, great minor league pitching coaches, and great selections in the draft. The Giants have just won the WS a single year ago, and last year's downfall had absolutely nothing to do with player personel. The infield including catcher may be entirely from our system aside from 2B, if Belt goes over Huff, and would feature WELL above average defense around the diamond, and potentially well above average offense if you consider the potential of Sando, Belt & Posey a much bigger upgrade than the potential deficiency of Crawford.
And then here you are, saying it would be "poetic justice" if Cain leaves for the Dodgers. Dude. Go F yourself. There is nothing that would bother me more in the whole of Giants baseball - but to you, it would be somehow worth it because then Sabean - who brought the Giants their first WS in 56 years - would get chewed out about it.
So seriously, get a sense of perspective. Additionally, it appear the two sides are moving much closer to a deal with Cainer - http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/giants-talk/post/Contract-talks-dont-unnerve-Cain-in-spri?blockID=663992
I'd trade him to the Dodgers in a heart beat.
Before people go nanners over that, they have a lot of cheap talent we could use. The best ML ready SS prospect in baseball, top of the rotation prospects, and a couple of ML ready mid rotation guys. Will never happen, but people get way to attached to players and rivalries. If the big blue fgts were dumb enough to over pay in a deal, then I'd drive him to LA myself.
Really? A durable pitcher like Cain with "ace" stuff who's shown he can be nails in the postseason?
If you let him walk our pitching could consist of Bumgarner and.......... in 2014.
If Cain was set on hitting FA I say you consider it, but with a pitcher of his caliber who seems more than happy to resign long term? You gotta lock him up.
I dont think Cain is so much like that (not that I personally know him), but most FA couldn't care less about the fans. They will leave in a heartbeat for 10 cents more.
It was a sad day for baseball fans when Curt Flood and others sued. In the old days, fans could get enamored with their players, because the player would be there for awhile.
Yes, I guess it was good for the players, but come on, paying someone (ARod) ONE QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS!!!
That is ridiculous. How much money can a person spend in their lifetime?
But in the end, dont get too enamored with Cain or anyone else. They will jilt their team and its fans in a heartbeat. I'm not sure about Cain, but I am pretty confident that Timmy will split in 2 years.
I just can't personally see him fitting in there, not right now at least. They are going to have more money with the new ownership and TV deal, but I just don't see it.
I can remember signings over the years that were quite painful to the fanbases. Think of Johnny Damon leaving for NY, and even Mike Mussina for that matter. You just don't go to your worst rivals. Most players who give a darn won't do it, but the ones that are motivated by the almighty dollar will.
As with all A-list free agent pitchers, there are really only 5-6 teams possible at play, one of those could be the Dodgers if they get a new owner with cash in place by this Fall, but I wouldn't put them at the top of the list.
It's hard to blame a guy for moving elsewhere for more money, as we'd all do it ourselves in our own jobs. I'm sure Cain feels loyal to the Giants fans, but if his employer is going to ask him for a market discount just because of that loyalty, well, there goes the loyalty to the owners.
This will simply be a matter of contracts. It's hard to imagine Cain chooses to leave if the Giants match any financial offers.
It seems all but certain we're in our final two years of Lincecum. Signing Cain has to be a top priority. A few million bucks here and there is child's play these days with a $600 million and growing franchise. God forbid we overpay Cain a few mill a year while we're paying Zito and Rowand $30M this season, right?
Why the heck would ATL spend $100M on Matt Cain when they have Vizcaino, Minor, Teheran and Delgado?