He was NOT in the front of the box, he was toward the back at least a foot and a half to two feet behind the zone.

Look where he started, and where he finished. His whole body moved from a foot behind the plate for the middle, and his hands bat were two feet behind the plate, and wound up a foot past.

The white line is his chin. I love Eric, but you cant move your whole body and bat through the zone and not expect to get called for swinging.

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so if Im standing in the back of the box, and move to in front of the plate without taking the bat off my shoulder, you're calling a strike? both the bat and my body went through. Even the Cardinals broadcast thought that was a bad call.

He did take his bat off his shoulder, what are you saying. He brought his bat and body all the way through the zone. He swung. Why would you say "If I didn't take my bat off the shoulder"????

It is a judgement call, and if you bring your arms, bat and body 2-3 feet forward and through the zone, you are gonna get called for a swing. My goodness, how much clearer can it be?

again...

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He brought hos whole upper body at least 3 feet through the zone. He swung, and at the very least it was not a reason to throw a fit.

I don't care what the announcers said, they didn't take the time to break down the film. Trust me that ump is not feeling bad about that call. If that was the other way around, and that was Kimbrel/Beltran, you would be screaming bloody murder that he swung and brought the bat/his hands/and his body through the zone.

I have no idea how that cant be a swing.

Looks like he checked his swing to me. I've always been under the impression that as long as the bat doesn't go in front of your hands, it's not a swing. I don't think where you're standing in the batter's box at the point of the check has anything to do with it.

His wrists didn't break on the "swing." Clearly looked like a check swing to me.

I think what made it worse was that the home ump was so quick and didn't check to the 3rd base ump.

wrist have nothing to do with it.

If you want to get technical, the front of the plate has nothing do with it either.

But when judging whether or not a player swings the wrist breaking is a big factor, and he didn't do that.

I always thought it was a swing if the bat went past the half-way plane in regards to the batter; not whether it crossed the front of the plate.

You're wrong, and you know it. You went from admitting you weren't sure what a swing actually was, now all of a sudden you're adamant that you're right and everyone else in the world is wrong.

I'm still waiting for the day he snaps a bat over his knee. He seems like the type of guy to do that.