"I saw no media coverage of this, no coaches pointing out the hole in his swing"
Such a good point, and 25toLife made similar good points. I've seen NOTHING in Belt's interviews or demeanor to suggest that he's got a bad attitude. Nothing. He's always said the right things and says if he goes to Fresno that's fine, he won't complain, he'll just put in his work and try to get back to the big leagues.
However, could anyone blame him if he did slip up and say something negative. Granted, if he was playing lights in the first 3 games he'd probably be in the lineup everyday so yes, you could say he has himself to blame and that's fine...But for Muelens to sit there and break down all of his weakness to the media in great detail was ridiculous. I've never read a quote like that and it was something that NO ball player would appreciate reading. After this kid does everything he's been asked to do he's got members of the coaching staff listing his shortcomings in detail??
Seems to me like a lame way to deal with the situation. I've heard so many interviews where Belt is brought up and his teammates always paint him as an "aw <shucks", happy go lucky kind of guy. I've never heard even a hint that he's a guy who brings an attitude with him. But who knows, maybe maybenextyear is an amazing judge of character who can read the guy in one short video clip of him working on his swing.
I would really like for him to succeed as well and there is hopefully time.
Huff is looking decent and Pill shows some promise as well as Posey taking the position from time to time. If Huff is hitting decent this year maybe another year in AAA wouldn't be the worst thing for Belt's development.
Do you remember where you saw the video of Belt working with Will? I couldn't find it anywhere.
"I wouldn't play Belt over Huff or Nate at this moment and I bet you wouldn't either."
I'm not arguing his playing time.
I'm questioning the idea of starting a thread questioning Belt's, or any player's attitude, based on your interpretation of a video clip of him working on his swing. Yes, I know this is just some silly discussion forum, but I think it's kind of weak. Especially considering that this is a kid who's done everything that's been asked of him and never complained about it.
It just strikes me as a bit Perez Hilton-ish in my humble opinion.
"Especially considering that this is a kid who's done everything that's been asked of him and never complained about it.
How in the world would you know that " the kids done everything asked" and everybody complains just not near cameras and mikes if they're smart.
It just strikes me as a bit Perez Hilton-ish in my humble opinion."
Of all the ludicrous, stupid and hysterical threads on this site regarding all manner of abject nonsense this wouldn't be a thread in the top 50 of Hilton-ish, IMHO and whatever that means.
" But who knows, maybe maybenextyear is an amazing judge of character who can read the guy in one short video clip of him working on his swing."
Try, I know it's hard but really try not to make everything a personal attack on fellow posters. It gets so idioticallt dull and ruins almost every thread and I surely don't mean just by you.
If you don't like the content. Don't read it.
I simply suggest another possibility to explain Belt's disappearance from the lineup based on granted somewhat thin evidence but, there is some reason to question the possibility.
"How in the world would you know that " the kids done everything asked" and everybody complains just not near cameras and mikes if they're smart."
Well let's see...they asked him to go play in the Dominican. It was written that he was hesitant, he was physically exhausted from playing his first full 2 seasons of pro ball but he said if the organization wanted him to go he'd go and try to make the adjustments that they asked him and that's exactly what he did. Bums just posted an article that lays out how they completely overhauled his swing which he welcomed with open arms. While he was getting shuttled back and forth from Fresno he didn't complain once. I mean, it's funny that you'd ask "how in the world would you know that..." in the middle of a thread that you created speculating about his attitude based on a short video clip of hitting instruction. Please tell me you see the irony in that.
"Try, I know it's hard but really try not to make everything a personal attack on fellow posters. It gets so idioticallt dull and ruins almost every thread and I surely don't mean just by you.
If you don't like the content. Don't read it."
A) How is anything I said a personal attack? Try, I know it's hard but really try not to interpret everything as a personal attack just because someone doesn't agree with you.
B) How exactly do you know if you don't like the content UNTIL you read it? Let's be honest, what it really sounds like you're really saying is that I shouldn't respond unless I agree with the content.
One thing that gets forgotten about Belt's swing/stance/etc is that the Giants basically created it themselves.
He was a college player with some mechanical issues but a scout saw the power potential. The Giants built his setup from the ground up. They moved his feet and hands and invented Belt. I don't think it'd be a stretch to say they know what needs to be done more than Belt does.
Totally agree chef. Bummer_ posted a good article about it above and it would suggest that the organization is acutely aware of the ins and outs of his swing.
I'm just saying that if anything, the complete overhaul to his swing, at the hands of the organization, would suggest to me that he's doing what the organization asks of him, contrary to the premise of this thread suggesting that he's not open to instruction.
" I'm just saying that if anything, the complete overhaul to his swing, at the hands of the organization, would suggest to me that he's doing what the organization asks of him, contrary to the premise of this thread suggesting that he's not open to instruction."
He's obviously put in the work to do what they want and he's reaped the benefits of the changes as he killed in the minors.
I just think it's gotta be tough for him. They showed him what to do it got him to the bigs and now they want re-adjust. He's probably like, "I thought you said this would work?"
You may need to reread yourself in a day or 2 with an attempt to understand the personal attack.
And if you still don't understand it I suggest you find someone who can explain it to you.
As to agreeing with me, well CenC, I started this thread knowing it would be controversial. It's one of the reasons I started it.
Baseball disagreements can be interesting and informative if they keep a foot in reality but when anything gets personal it's devolves into pointless nonsense unless it's harassing trolls.
And now I am done with you for today on this thread.
"As to agreeing with me, well CenC, I started this thread knowing it would be controversial. It's one of the reasons I started it."
And yet you get sensitive when someone disagrees? Hmm.
It's also interesting how the people that throw out the personal attack accusations when someone doesn't agree with them never seem to want to point out what the personal attack was. It's always "Well, if you don't see it I'm not going to waste my time..." or "I'll let your reread your post and figure it out..."
Again, never called names, never claimed someone was an idiot for stating their opinion. It's easy to accuse people of personal attacks. Apparently it's tougher to quote them and back up the accusations though.
And again, to back up my point...I'd argue that considering that the guy completely overhauled his swing at the request of the organization, that may be evidence that he's open to hitting instruction. But what do I know? I didn't see the Zapruder film.
It's about 14 minutes in.