"Who did you want in return for Dickey from the Blue Jays? Josh Johnson and Jose Reyes."
No. How about this:
darnaud, syndergaard, davis/Gose, Bonifacio and buck for Dickey, Flores and Thole. Maybe even add McHugh. Dickey is being seriously undervalued in the current round of rumors.
"And risk RA having a bad first half, or getting injured... thus killing his trade value."
We will never improve if we worry more about trade value of our players than about having good players actually playing for this team. Any player can get injured, including those we get in any trade. By targeting prospects for our best players, we will always be a couple of years away.
D'Arnaud was almost ready to come back for Arizona Fall League, there's no reason to believe he won't be 100% healthy come February 12th when pitchers and catchers report.
"A little speed". Gose will steal 80 bases if he can get on base at a decent player, he can be a Michael Bourn-type of player with 10 homer power and plenty of doubles.
You're trading a guy with one year left on his deal who doesn't have a UCL; what the Jays are rumoured to be giving up is for sure fair.
"we should sit on RA so that he can turn into a 40 year old pile of mush"
Your crystal balls seem to be malfunctioning. Get one that shows a clearer and more accurate view. Dickey will go from the best pitcher to "a pile of mush" in 2 yrs? Not very likely. More likely, Dickey will continue for another yr or 2 with a sub .300 ERA, then pitch to about 3.35 - 3.50 ERA and WHIP of about 1.25-1.30 for the next 3 yrs. 2 yrs more as an ace, then 3 yrs as a # 2 is better than most pitchers expectations.
"you countered a factually accurate statement with hypothetical conjecture thats, well, wrong."
You didn't make a factually accurate statement. You gave your opinion. Under 80 mph (such as 75-80) does not make the knukleball ineffective. A harder thrown ball is less affected by wind or air current. Losing speed will mean fewer strikeouts, but he will still pitch effectively. Your opinion does not constitute fact.
I have kept my mouth shut but now we are in the 11th hour. All I can say is that if we do not get someone substantial; if we get a prospect for R.A. then I am boycotting the Mets in 2013. I refuse to have my heart ripped out over stupidity.Sandy better pull a rabbit out of a hat if he trades R.A. R.A. has brought class to the classless; spirit and soul and honor. If we get nothing for something I will be disgusted.Sandy, your future in Met Fan's hearts rests in this moment. To take a 20 game winner away is ludicrous if you get bubkes in return.
The Wilpons are hated and you can add yourself to that list with this one move.