Why didn't we pull a Seattle Mariners-like move this spring for Montero and convert him to first base?
I think a package of McGowan, Litsch, Farina, Santos, and Cecil could have snagged him.
How does that Pineda trade look for Yankees now?
If any player is converted into being a first baseman, it should be Arencebia, and then there would be room for both Arencebia and d'Arnaud on the ML roster. (Lots of catchers move to 1st base.)
Sadly, I doubt Lind has much trade value. He's turned into another Lyle Overbay.
"I think a package of McGowan, Litsch, Farina, Santos, and Cecil could have snagged him."
Well it's like they knew Pineda would get injured so there's no way they would have taken that package instead. They really were looking to get one impact starting pitching not a bunch of fringy guys, a minor league reliever and a closer. The closest comparison to Pineda would have probably been Alvarez. Maybe Alvarez and a GOOD prospect would have gotten it done but I still think the Yankees would have went with Pineda.
"If any player is converted into being a first baseman, it should be Arencebia, and then there would be room for both Arencebia and d'Arnaud on the ML roster."
I don't think Arencibia's bat plays anywhere else but catcher, and only there if his defense improves.
Not that I'm advocating giving up on Lind, but
For all the people suggesting that a poor corner outfielder can't learn to play 1st base.That's exactly what we did with Lind. In fact, he was even worse than Thames out there.
your advocating using Logic, against people who have none
To people on this forum
Lind is an allstar firstbaseman ( Two and a half years of .700 OPS which would be okay if he was a gold glove shortstop, but for a First Baseman those might be all time worst numbers)Snider is a future superstar (Despite failing miserably for years in MLB)
And you cant change their minds, even if Thames hits .300 Snider is always better no matter what. Snider will be bald, and 35 and they will still be like OMG SNIDER IS KILLING IT IN JAPAN OMG
"You know we had this exact same issue with a out fielder that is playing first base right now."
Lind played 1B in college, so it wasn't so much a transition for Lind to a new position, but rather a reacquaintance with a previous position.
And yes, Lind wasn't great in left, but if I'm remembering correctly, it was more due to his lack of athleticism than his lack of instincts.
In summary, they both have their limitations in left, but I don't think we're comparing apples to apples here.
ofcourse we are not comparing apples to apples
We are comparing an aging 1B with a bad back (Coming from the off season) with two and half years of OPSING around .700 with a young healthy Thames, who continues to show potentiol with the bat, and is already OPSING a hundred points higher.
There is no comparison. two and a half years of being the worse producing first baseman in the majors
"We are comparing an aging 1B with a bad back (Coming from the off season) with two and half years of OPSING around .700 with a young healthy Thames, who continues to show potentiol with the bat, and is already OPSING a hundred points higher."
The concept of Thames playing first should not be based on whether or not he would be better than Lind, it should be based on whether it's a good idea to move Thames to 1B.
Small sample size aside, Thames is out OPSing Lind this season by about 60 points, not 100. This does not mean that Thames is hitting well, it means that Lind has been awful. Lind has played well defensively at 1B. Thames (as far as I know) has not had any meaningful time playing 1B.
Thames is not an embarassment at the plate, but he has been in the field so far. Any potential in his bat is only valuable to us in a role where he doesn't subtract value with his horrible defense.
Thames' current OPS is .718. How much higher does it have to be to make it worth living with him in a defensive role?