"I guess trying to force yourself on a woman alone with her in hotel room"

Except they weren't alone, her friend was there to. Which was one of the biggest holes in her story.

"When I see 25 HR, 100 RBI, and 30 stolen bases from this kid"

You do realize that only three players in baseball(Kemp, Ellsbury and Braun) did that last year right? So your basically saying until he wins an MVP you aren't going to be impressed? Pretty high standards don't you think

Well, the kid WAS hyped pretty big, wasn't he? We got some decent SS prospect in the minors who could steal bases, hit a little, and actually play alertly. I would not mind at all seeing Castro go for some realistically good pitching. I'll take a .270 hitter, 10 HR, 60 RBI guy at SS if it means unloading Castro for pitching. Of course, other teams no this, and they are not about to give up anything good for him.

Sorry, but I think Castro's a dog.

>>LOL, you really hate Castro.

No, Castro is actually one of my favorite players on the team. This year though, he has been average offensively compared to the rest of the league's shortstops.

Doesn't mean i still don't like him.

Sure you do.

"Well, the kid WAS hyped pretty big, wasn't he?"

Not as an MVP player, he will be a perennial all star and he will probably steal 30 bases numerous times in his career but he will never be a 25 homerun player. His ceiling is much more similiar to Jeter, while Jeter never won an MVP most would consider him a good player

"they are not about to give up anything good for him. "

You are completely wrong about that. If we put Castro on the market every team would be lining up to make an offer

Yeap. That's one of the several differences between me and you. Even though i like a player, i can still see his weaknesses and flaws and don't have a need to overhype them (Castro is an example this year). Just like if there's a player i dislike, i can accept when they are playing well and say good job (Soriano is an example this year).

You are unable to do either. Just like your smart@$$ comment about Barney and the HOF just because someone pointed out his errorless game streak.

>>Not as an MVP player, he will be a perennial all star and he will probably steal 30 bases numerous times in his career but he will never be a 25 homerun player. His ceiling is much more similiar to Jeter

I agree. I think 15 HRs a year will be about his limit. I think he'll steal closer to 20 bases a year, than 30 which would be similar to Jeter as he averaged around 20 a season, hitting 30 or more only 4 times.

I would be thrilled if Castro had a career like Jeter's but i don't see it happening. Jeter has been way better at getting on base (career average of .382) than Castro ever will be and also i don't ever see Castro having a .900 OPS season (Jeter had a few right around .900 or higher) and has a career OPS of .830. I think Castro's ceiling will be closer to a career OPS around .785.

I do agree that he will be a perennial all star and i believe he will eventually win a few gold gloves as well.

You don't know anything about me. Don't pretend you do.

>>You don't know anything about me. Don't pretend you do.

I know what i see on this MB and thats enough for me to know i don't want to know anything else about you.

That is why I said ceiling, the only difference between the two is the ability to walk. If Castro ever gets that then I think he will accomplish that.

Jeter's 162 game average

33 doubles, 16 homeruns, 22 stolen bases, .313 average. I could see that being the average for Castro as well maybe slightly more stolen bases. The big question as to how far Castro will go will indeed be his OBP

No you make assumptions. Most of which are way off. Just like when you started something in the game thread yesterday.

>>That is why I said ceiling,

I understood your point. I think its just a higher ceiling that Castro will ever reach.

>>the only difference between the two is the ability to walk

That's not the only difference but it is the main difference. If you're only looking at the first two years of Jeter, then i guess that's the only difference, but if you're talking about his career, that's a different matter.

If castro can even get close to what jeter has accomplished i will be satisfied. I think it may be a few years before Castro even manages 1 season with an .800 OPS let alone have a career average 30 points higher

>>33 doubles, 16 homeruns, 22 stolen bases, .313 average. I could see that being the average for Castro as well maybe slightly more stolen bases

I can see that too, maybe an average closer to .300 though

>>The big question as to how far Castro will go will indeed be his OBP

Agreed. That is the one area in which he needs to improve (or at least the one area in which he has the greatest room for improvement.)

No, i simply call it like it see it.

When i see a poster do nothing but p!$$ and moan about a single player and complain about him no matter what he does and refuse to admit that he provides any value, etc. then i simply say that the person doesn't like that player.

Yes, I understand that you get butt hurt when your fav players are called out for what they are.

"Nobody, and I mean NOBODY is going to deal with the Cubs in a way that might benefit this team."

The suits up in the front office won't have much job security if majority of trade deals benefits the opposing ballclub, no?

That said, I agree with you. Castro is another in a long line of overrated Chicago draft picks ala Derrick Rose.

are you kidding?? D-Rose is prob a top 3 player..it's a shame he got hurt, a bulls vs heat matchup woulda been epic..and i'm from san francisco..btw i'm sure the giants would love to take Castro off you guys hands..our ss is hitting .230 with a .288 obp.

Shawon Dunston!!! Let's see where was he drafted? #1. Career 268 BA and 296 OBP. Never had 150 hits in a season!

Shawon was a career underachiever. The only comparables are skin color and arm strength.

I think he is sitting to close to Soriano when on the bench.

First, I don't believe that all our prospects are going to "pan out" and play up to their potential in the bigs.

I do have faith in Baez, Vogelbach, Rizzo and Soler.

I have less faith in Jackson, Vitters and Lake.

I can't really commit on Almora since I haven't seen him much but I will say I'm not a very big fan of his swing. It looks loopy and I don't like the high leg kick. I hope he can produce like Soriano but that swing, to me, looks like it will lead to inconsistency. I hope the Cubs can rework it a little and make it quicker.

Also, I think Soler's swing from the right side looks borderline perfect! Short, quick, very little complexity.

I am not saying I would trade him. However if I was inclined to Oakland would be the best trade partner. Tons of young pitching talent and a rich system. They may think they can compete next year and a good shortstop is needed. If Jed & Theo pull the trigger on a Castro trade they had better be right.