I could see that too, but do they really want 2 guys, Cardenas and Valbuena playing that really project as nothing more than utility types?
I know they don't want to rush players but I think it would be worth it to give Vitters a look at 3b
"And keep in mind that AA tends to be easier to hit in than AAA."
That is not even remotely close to true, especially when talking about the PCL. The PCL is one of the biggest hitters leagues in all of baseball. The PCL is the same league where Koyie Hill had an OPS over .800.
Now don't get me wrong, I am a HUGE Josh Vitters fan and have been for a long time. I have been one of the ones who has gone against the people who were calling him a bust 2 years ago. He is finally staying healthy and has made some huge strides in the area he needed to work on which was pitch selection. He is seeing more pitches, being more selective and it is not only allowing him to walk significantly more but also hit for more power. You are seeing less little dribblers off the end of the bat and more screaming line drives up the middle and it is great to see. I think he is going to be an above average player in this league with a couple years in his prime where he puts up monstrous numbers. I would love nothing more than to see an infield of Vitters-Castro-Watkins-Rizzo come the end of next year. But do NOT dismiss Castellanos, Castellanos is a potential MVP caliber player. Obviously there have been many of said prospects who have busted so time will only tell but the kid has star written all over him. The Tigers will end up trading VMart before they trade Castellanos IMO
"Is Valbuena's glove better at 2B?"
Significantly better at 2B then 3B. 2B is his natural position.
"The only thing is if we lost Barney, we'd downgrade defense at 2B and 3B. I would hope the offense would offset it though. "
3B would be a wash and it would be a slight downgrade at 2B. But the potential added offense that Vitters would provide over Barney would easily out weight that
I heard he's better at 2b, but still not a guy you'd label a good fielder, same with Cardenas.
When the Cubs signed these guys I recall the reports saying they were guys that have shown some promise with the bat at times, but were not good defensive players.
Just based on the local rumblings and what Theo and Jed say, IMO, it doesn't seem like Vitters will be called up at all, not even in September. Sounds like they want a full year in AAA and end this season hopefully on a high note. Sounds like they're fearful of a Sept call up and a struggle that will carry over to winter ball or next year, where ever he plays.
Personally, if I were to bet on it, I bet on Vitters never coming up this year. IMO.
I don't know if they say that so the media doesn't hound them on ......hey when you gonna call up this guy.I recall them also alluding to maybe not seeing Rizzo until Septmember this year.
Granted Vitters hasn't been dominated AAA like Rizzo did but you'd think they want to go into this winter with a better idea of what to expect from Vitters next year.
I don't know. I think all along, Jed had Rizzo pegged for a June call up after the extra year deadline.
I still don't think Vitters comes up this year. He's had a rocky rise since he was drafted. I think they'd go slow with him to keep that confidence up.
They can do that too, and that is probably what they would do if Barney is traded.I was just saying, I'd rather see Vitters get an early look so they can see what they need to do with 3b this winter.
I'd imagine Stewart is brought back but put into a competition for 3b with others.
I can see them doing with Vitters next year what they did with Rizzo this year and saying he's not going to win the 3b job no matter how good he looks in spring and then end up calling him up a couple of months into the season if he continues to progress and forces a move like Rizzo did.
What I'd like to see though , is him up here now.
I also would not be <shocked to see him involved in a trade because I think Baez is the future at 3b and the OF is too crowded with high ceiling propscts for him to have a future out there with the team.
That's just like 32 games in AA which he went to in early June. You can't discount his A #'s. Who's knows if he'll pan out, but he's not the #5 3B prospect in baseball for nothing.
Don't get me wrong. I don't have a problem with Vitters. They should bring him up late this year and see what he is capable of.