Ooh, spooky! - No, not spooky.....just something you have
you have to look forward to.....

As I said, we're just expected to accept this. Why? Because!

that would be your decision to make....God once said through the
prophet Isaiah that his ways are not our ways and his thoughts are
not our thoughts, and this leads many to ask many questions.....
you have to find your own answers.....Just don't make a mistake!

<and this leads many to ask many questions.....
you have to find your own answers.....Just don't make a mistake!>

If this were true- it is a deceitful, childish trick.

yes. if a guy worships rocks i could care less unless he wants to sit and contemplate gravel in the middle of a highway then he should know he's got a chance to get run over or arrested for doing so but hey who am i to to tell him it's not god. maybe that's a bit out there. just saying i don't care what you worship but it doesn't put it above the laws we are governed by. we are a nation built on the rule of law above all else no matter how all these threads are trying to spin it otherwise.

Here in KY we have snake handling preachers. personally i don't care until they bring children into it or get bit and end up in the emergency room expecting free care to save them. there are laws though that govern them and they need to abide by those laws even though i say let them kiss the snake if they want to. just keep the kids away.

that may not be the easiest reasoning to follow. i'll try better to be coherent later.

I don't think this is really a question about religion. I think its more about respecting the person who believes in the religion.

Jesus, whether you believe he existed or not, whether you believe he's the son of god or not, really had the right idea. Love one another!

It's really that simple, and i think respect is included in that. The problem is that too many people, religous and non religious, don't seem capable of doing this.

maybe this is more direct. the constitutional interstate commerce clause and each individual states Department of Insurance which regulates things such as health care trumps whatever brand of religion you worship if you offer benefits.

If this were true- it is a deceitful, childish trick.

No it is not a childish trick....it is not deceitful.....nothing
about religion is deceitful....you get to make your own decisions,
you get to be in control....you have made a decision, a decision
not to believe not to be a part of it....fine....that is the beauty of it, you
can do this.....

maybe this is more direct. the constitutional interstate commerce clause and each individual states Department of Insurance which regulates things such as health care trumps whatever brand of religion you worship if you offer benefits.

That is true....but it could change with a SC decision.....nine people, if just five
on them feel one way, we all have to follow that decision.....wouldn't it be great
if you could just ask the SC to tell you if their was a God, if there was life after death?

TYAN so which is it. your all for giving the power back to the states and i believe 20 something states department of insurance already have it in their state codes that this contraceptive provision is to be covered but now the Obama uses the ISCC which is a fed code and your upset. you hypocrite make up your mind and stick with it.

I respect a person's right to their own belief system, no matter how irrational I think it is. If they allow me to do the same, we'll live in peace.
If they try to force their way on me, I will resist. And I will not try to force my way on them.

I guess that's my definition of respect.

Anyone care to explain why you are propagating lies?

Congratulations on your windfall!

Monty's point is that, if you are religious, for some reason you are not expected to provide a good basis for why we should accomodate you.

you know, someone just MIGHT ask you to explain yourself... you know, like "whicthings were lies" and 'why they are lies". but it's not going to be me, because I don't want you getting all mad at me.

Being against contraception is an archaic belief with no basis that runs contrary to our laws of reason. I think we are all quite aware of how we bend over backwards for religion... I think the topic asks, "Why?"

Hmm, the fire is dying. Let's throw on another log, shall we?:

Your faith is a joke -- Pat Condell
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4dSiHqpULk

There is NO reason to respect religion. In fact, there is a mountain of reasons to DISrespect it.

One example of a blatant lie:

"Sorry, you can't take illegal narcotics like cannabis to ease the pain of your cancer. Light that joint and we will lock you up. What's that? Your smoke/snort/drink these substances for religious reasons? Then go right ahead!"

Employment Division v. Smith says otherwise.

That doesn't refute what he said. that decision was not to make it illegal, it was regarding unemployment benefits.

Are you trying to tell me I can't find two or three examples of exactly what he said? because I'll bet I can.

So, wrong on that one. now, the other "lies" of which you speak?